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I had noticed that when I first used a new chain it seemed to stretch a LOT. Read the Carrollton publication on saw chain the other day… So I’m going to be replacing my original (2008) rim sprocket when these two stretched chains are done!Generally, if you can see any damage, it is bad. I generally show the customer, and tell them to put on a new sprocket when they get some new chains, as running a new chain on an old shot sprocket will quickly damage {stretch} the chains.
Hand file only.How about put up some better photos of your stretched chains from both side and top showing the cutters? BTW, what are you using for sharpening? Hand file, jig, grinder?
Half the adjustment is not "used up". if the chain was tight with the bar all the way back, you would have to remove the sprocket off the crank to get the chain on and off. The bar needs to be able to go back far enough to get the chain off. And to let you use a one tooth larger sprocket. And to account for manufacturing tolerances.That does not explain why half the adjustment is used up with all new parts and no wear has been applied.
Might just be the picture quality, but that bottom chain looks pretty blunt to me... A couple of well focused close up pics of the cutters from above & side on would be goodHand file only.
Here are 2 chains. Both are stretched to the adjuster limit.
The top one is past the file limit line the bottom one has almost all the tooth left but is to the adjuster limit and still has plenty of tooth left.
The top chain is the green and the bottom is the yellow.
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I'm pretty new here but as a trade mechanic, I've seen manufacturers make other chain links smaller or larger, with the outcome being the same total length. Seen it alot on sand/salt hoppers and fresh air rooftop Regen transmissions. Thought I was goin crazy the first few times the tic marks for timing were what I thought were off but after calling the rep I found out the actual link size changed just a hair thereby setting everything else off. Not sure just a possibility. Have a safe dayI have been using the same chain and bar setup for many years. Same bar, same chain. But the last year or so I have been running into a new problem. When I put on a brand new chain and I adjust it I end up with half the chain adjustment already half way used up. Here is a few pics.
This is my ms362 with a brand new chain and as you can see it's already half way along it's adjustment. Im running a 20 bar with a 36RM-72 chain#3652-005-0072 and is what all the sthil dealers recommend.
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Here is my MS 261 with the same issue. I also run a 20'' bar with a 26RM - 81 Part # 3686-005-0081. On this one you can see there is less then half an inch of adjustment before I run out of adjustment. It also has a fairly new bar so not a lot of bar wear ether.
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By the time it stretches past the limit of the adjustment I still have over half the teeth left. I keep my chains very sharp and never run them when they get dull. I am cutting green oak and I can usually get 5 or 6 tanks of gas run before I have to touch them up unless I hit something. This is with a new sprocket so sprocket wear shouldn't be the issue. I am also cutting mostly large rounds of at least 12'' to 48'' so I'm in big wood most of the time. Is this normal? I don't remember having this issue a few years ago. Am I using the wrong size chain? What's going on here. Thanks
I did not resharpin the bottom chain after the last use when the adjustment was gone. Yes the bottom chain is dull. No sense sharpening a chain that can't be used anymore.Might just be the picture quality, but that bottom chain looks pretty blunt to me... A couple of well focused close up pics of the cutters from above & side on would be good
That makes sense however from what I can see in that picture the lower chain looks to be well overdue sharpening, to the degree it would be contributing to excessive wear (chain stretch etc) which is what we're trying to establish.I did not resharpin the bottom chain after the last use when the adjustment was gone. Yes the bottom chain is dull. No sense sharpening a chain that can't be used anymore.
It's just a bad pic.That makes sense however from what I can see in that picture the lower chain looks to be well overdue sharpening, to the degree it would be contributing to excessive wear (chain stretch etc) which is what we're trying to establish.
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That chain looks to be full chisel & if that's the case it looks to need at least 0.050" filed of to get it's cutting edge back.
If that is the case & that's a fair indicator of your sharpening intervals then it may we'll be a contributing factor to your issue.
Pretty hard to say anything definitive from that pic though, hence the request for a few more (especially of that lower chain)
Probably, but without good pics you're unlikely to get good answers... especially given that generally excessive chain stretch will be due to either oiling, sharpening, or tensioning issues (or a combination of the above)It's just a bad pic.
No, it is rocked out.It's just a bad pic.
Side views please... It also wouldn't hurt to hit the cutters with a small brass brush to remove the crud so that we can actually see the cutters.Hand file only.
Here are 2 chains. Both are stretched to the adjuster limit.
The top one is past the file limit line the bottom one has almost all the tooth left but is to the adjuster limit and still has plenty of tooth left.
The top chain is the green and the bottom is the yellow.
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You haven't read all my post because all the answers you are asking have been answered. Please go back and read so I don't have to keep repeating myself. ThanksSide views please... It also wouldn't hurt to hit the cutters with a small brass brush to remove the crud so that we can actually see the cutters.
You haven't read all my post because all the answers you are asking have been answered. Please go back and read so I don't have to keep repeating myself. ThanksProbably, but without good pics you're unlikely to get good answers... especially given that generally excessive chain stretch will be due to either oiling, sharpening, or tensioning issues (or a combination of the above)
For the record... I have this same issue with a 361. I doubt if it’s going to be solved here because it seems beat to death.Some of you keep attacking my sharpening skills or saying my issue is poor sharpening or running a dull chain. I can assure you that is not the case because my issue is with all new parts not having enough adjustment. It has nothing to do with how sharp a chain is. That is a whole other issue that does not apply here.
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