Stihl vs Tsumura Bars

[merkel]

Curious at to everyone's thoughts on the quality difference between the Stihl and Tsumura bars. No have an 036 Pro I am interested in putting a new 20" bar. Right now I am running a ES with 3/8x.063 chain. Plan on using the same chain specs. Any thoughts would be great.

 

[treesmith]

Ive got a 20" and 25" tsumura in 3/8 .063, also run ES bars in same size, Tsumura quality looks good and I'll buy them again

 

[Justsaws]

I have never had a Tsumura replaceable sprocket tip bar that was not a top notch bar. Usually use them as the standard which others are judged against. I have not purchased any new in the last couple of years so hopefully they are still excellent bars.

Tsumura hardtip bars were also excellent.

Stihl bars are what I would consider the industry standard and compare them to the upper end of the Oregon line up.
Would rather have a Stihl light weight than the Oregon but would not pay extra for either.

Have never purchased a new Stihl or Oregon bar that was not new old stock but own lots of both in barely used condition, perks of collecting saws.

Currently using all Oregon and Stihl bars, thinning the herd through use and abuse.

 

[fordf150]

Here is my ranking of bar quality on the ones I have used. From worst to best. Oregon power match, Stihl ES, tsumura is a couple steps above the stihl es bars... total super(Tsumura), cannon(I have one for my saw but haven't put this one to use yet so from their reputation only I am putting it above the Tsumura)

 

[mdavlee]

The only reason to rank cannon above tsumura is the ease of replacement tips.

 

[merkel]

Tsumura it is. Now I just Ned to decide on the 18" or 20".

 

[NWCoaster]

IMO - 20"

 

[Full Chisel]

What's wrong with your ES bar?

 

[merkel]

What's wrong with your ES bar?

I think it's burnt up. Nose sprocket runs fine and the chain runs smoothly but where the metal is where the chain slides is a little rough. The mental seems to have peeled back about 1/64th. Figured I would just get a new one and toss the other.

 

[Full Chisel]

I think it's burnt up. Nose sprocket runs fine and the chain runs smoothly but where the metal is where the chain slides is a little rough. The mental seems to have peeled back about 1/64th. Figured I would just get a new one and toss the other.

Sounds to me like the bar is fine and just needs dressed. Heck of a lot cheaper than a new Tsumura...

 

[Moonshiner180]

Blasphemy! Any excuse to upgrade means its a necessity!

 

[weedkilla]

Blasphemy! Any excuse to upgrade means its a necessity!

Well it's time to buy a linishing belt and disc sander setup for his grinder. That and a little hand held bar dresser.

Tool buying is nearly as fun as saw upgrades.

 

[Moonshiner180]

Well, if the money is there, there is always the "both" option, if not then it's probably better to have the equipment to maintain what you have, as you stated.

 

[merkel]

I don't use a saw for a living so buying a new bar is more fun. No plans on dressing her up either.

 

[Full Chisel]

I don't use a saw for a living so buying a new bar is more fun. No plans on dressing her up either.

You'll fit right in around here...

 

[weedkilla]

I don't use a saw for a living so buying a new bar is more fun. No plans on dressing her up either.

Well just keep using it until cannon release their lightweight bar and you can be the first to have one.
You might want to knock that burr off the outside with a few swipes with a flat file, if that's not too excessive.

 

[merkel]

Well just keep using it until cannon release their lightweight bar and you can be the first to have one.
You might want to knock that burr off the outside with a few swipes with a flat file, if that's not too excessive.

Can easily knock the burr off but plan on tossing it or just putting it aside for a rainy day. On the Cannon.....to a non professional I wouldn't see the benefit of spending the extra money.

 

[Full Chisel]

You should toss that bar in the mail and send it to me. I'll take care of it properly and you can waste money on a new expensive bar.

 

[merkel]

You should toss that bar in the mail and send it to me. I'll take care of it properly and you can waste money on a new expensive bar.

Based on your signature you do not have a Stihl. The ES would be sad among the mean Husky's

 

[weedkilla]

Can easily knock the burr off but plan on tossing it or just putting it aside for a rainy day. On the Cannon.....to a non professional I wouldn't see the benefit of spending the extra money.

Seriously - that bar is about a quarter of the way through its life.
I can't see the benefit of spending the extra money on a new bar.