Who makes the "crappiest" chainsaws????
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Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
So.. put it back on topic.... with care...
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GASoline71
Mr. Nice Guy
Not from the south...
you seem to fit the "import puke" stereotype...
There is nothing to learn...
I'm glad there are people that wanna make a 1.8L commuter car go fast... so i don't have to. That's just me bein' narrowminded...
Gary
kennyplay
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THALL10326
The Champ
Ha, boy I see ya still kicking, cool. Now I gotta tell ya the Stihl E-220 is by far the best electric saw made, no one makes a electric saw that comes close, not Husky, not no one. It's only 539.00, how many ya want? Now you can hate Stihl, hell I don't care but the E-220 Stihl is a fine MO-CHINE. Them ole Craftsmans are made by Poulan and Poulan is owned by Husky who is owned by E-LUX but don't you worry who is who ole boy, I'm your Daddy,LOL
Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
I have the E20... the E220 with a label change.. Best electric saw on the market... Makita makes pretty good (for the price) smaller electics. Husky's are good, but the motor has to be replaced in entirety when it fails - expensive when all that fails is often the brushes.
If we're talking Remingtons as sold at Home Depot.. I hate to say it, but I agree with Newguy..
If we're talking Remingtons as sold at Home Depot.. I hate to say it, but I agree with Newguy..
THALL10326
The Champ
Know exactly whatcha mean Lake. Folks bring in those little Remmingtons and little cheapie electrics and I won't touch em. Did have 2- E220's come in a few weeks ago, they had ruined the cords on them. I asked the feller whatcha doing with two of these. He said I build log homes and they are perfect for cutting notches and such. Says he uses the hell out of them and they hold up great cept for the guys trying to stretch the cords like guitar strings,LOL
bcorradi
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This may be a dumb question, but i'll shoot anyhow. I've heard of log cabin builders and woodturners using electric chainsaws, but what would a common guy find themselves using them for?
THALL10326
The Champ
Average saw user probly wouldn't have much use for one. However contractors love them. They do alot of indoor work where a gas saw is too smelly and too much noise. They saw out floor joists and all sorts of stuff with those saws. The fire companies use them when a smoke filled house is so full of smoke a gas saw won't run. Electricains and plumbers also use electric saws for sawing open walls and such to get at what they need to fix or install.
Your pretty much correct about the common saw user , they wouldn't have much need for a electric saw. The saw Lake and me are talking about, the E220, is a whale of a saw, that thing has got some power. Course its costly but man its a beast. Pulls a full size 3/8 chain with some raw power..
sperho
ArboristSite Operative
If a contractor whipped out his chainsaw on my worksite (post barns excluded, if I were to build one), I'd run him off the place. Have done it before. Unless it's a destruction job. No building that doesn't use posts to support it's barn skin needs a chainsaw on the job. What the hades do they need a chainsaw for when there is a perfectly good alternative that is in all contractors' toolboxes for rough work? (Sawzall)
That said, my neighbor had one (not an E220 by any stretch of the imagination) and failed at cutting down an 18" dbh red oak tree in his front yard with one. I calmly walked over there and saved him from killing himself with something that actually cut. So, I guess the "common guy" has them because they like the idea of cutting something, but aren't fully committed.
On the farm, they are good for cutting out tunnels in silos to fix clean-out augers.
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THALL10326
The Champ
Sawzall is like using a pocket knife compare to a good electric chainsaw. Time is money. Why waste time sawing 4x4's or 6x6's posts for decks with a Sawzall when you can saw many at once with a electric chain saw. Why do a remodeling job sawing open a wall with a Sawzall when you can do it 50 times faster with a good electric chain saw. Sawzall's have their place in construction, not arguing that but so do the electric chainsaws. You sorta puzzle me, they are both electric saws aren't they with one being 50 times faster sawing wood.
So tell me if the man was using a electric chainsaw to saw 8x8 posts for a deck why would you run him off the job?
sperho
ArboristSite Operative
Note, I edited my post to exclude post barns from my harsh judgement.
That said, I'd probably not run someone off the job for cutting 8x8 deck posts, but I would razz them enough to make them stop using one on my job. Posts are fine, but here's the problem: when there is a crew around and more work than just posts to cut, some folks get lazy and/or careless. I had some work done that involved some posts, 2 bys, and 1 bys. They used a chainsaw for the posts and by the end of the day they were using it for the 2 bys. "Our saw blade got dull". :bang: I made them tear out everything that they cut with a chainsaw that was exposed and replace it with lumber than didn't look like it was butchered. They probably thought, it's just a fence...
So, it's like other tools, they all have their place. Some are easier to abuse than others with those of less than stellar judgement. Since I can't control everyone else's judgement at all times (not that I even try, mind you), I'd rather have them put the chainsaw away, set their circular saw to max depth, and flip the board once if necessary to prevent momentary lapses of reason by numbnutz that might be around to have a bright idea to increase productivity at the wrong place, wrong time.
bcorradi
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Thanks Tom that clears it up.
THALL10326
The Champ
Ok I completely agree with you on exposed ragged cuts, can't blame you at all on that. That's shady work for sure. Up here where I work, a contractor outfit, most all them have Sawsall's and electric chainsaws on their trucks. I don't know what all they use these tools for but I know all the deck builders use the electric chainsaws for post cuts.
Elmore
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Turbo Power
My wife brought home a new 36cc Craftsman in 1997. I do try to keep her from bringing home strays but what can you do? Besides, where would I be without her? I think it is a Poulan model 2250 but could be a Poulan Pro 210. For years I never really cared much for it and even thought that my mid 80s Poulan 2000 would cut circles around it. But after being on AS for awhile, listening, learning and messing with it, the little gray Poulan has turned out to be a pretty reliable saw. I never really ran it much and still don't but after I removed the limiter caps, adjusted the carb and put some more hours on it the saw has broken in to a pretty fair cutting 36cc saw. It sure is smoother than the old 2000. It's got a turbo...heh heh
I do have a 52cc Makita for more rigorous cutting and I would like to get a Dolmar PS-401 or the Makita version but my low end Poulans have been good little saws for their small cost.
My sister and her husband bought a 46cc red Craftsman with a 16" intenz bar. I've used it limbing up a bunch of trees at her place and I can attest that this red, rebadged "Wild Thing" is more trouble than it is worth. Once warmed up it is hard to keep running when at idle and sometimes near impossible to restart. But the 30% time that it does run properly it is fine until you have to shut it down to readjust the stinkin' bar. Then once again you can't hardly restart it. Before I ever used it and after only a couple of few hours on it the primer bubble failed and it had to be put in the shop. If it were mine I would switch the bar, remove the limiters, open up the muffler or replace it with a non-catalytic type and adjust the carb. I'd bet that would improve it. Some say that with minimal expertise, a little time and some effort a "Wild Thing" can be made better. I think Thall describes that as putting it out back in the dumpster...lol.
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My wife brought home a new 36cc Craftsman in 1997. I do try to keep her from bringing home strays but what can you do? Besides, where would I be without her? I think it is a Poulan model 2250 but could be a Poulan Pro 210. For years I never really cared much for it and even thought that my mid 80s Poulan 2000 would cut circles around it. But after being on AS for awhile, listening, learning and messing with it, the little gray Poulan has turned out to be a pretty reliable saw. I never really ran it much and still don't but after I removed the limiter caps, adjusted the carb and put some more hours on it the saw has broken in to a pretty fair cutting 36cc saw. It sure is smoother than the old 2000. It's got a turbo...heh heh
I do have a 52cc Makita for more rigorous cutting and I would like to get a Dolmar PS-401 or the Makita version but my low end Poulans have been good little saws for their small cost.
My sister and her husband bought a 46cc red Craftsman with a 16" intenz bar. I've used it limbing up a bunch of trees at her place and I can attest that this red, rebadged "Wild Thing" is more trouble than it is worth. Once warmed up it is hard to keep running when at idle and sometimes near impossible to restart. But the 30% time that it does run properly it is fine until you have to shut it down to readjust the stinkin' bar. Then once again you can't hardly restart it. Before I ever used it and after only a couple of few hours on it the primer bubble failed and it had to be put in the shop. If it were mine I would switch the bar, remove the limiters, open up the muffler or replace it with a non-catalytic type and adjust the carb. I'd bet that would improve it. Some say that with minimal expertise, a little time and some effort a "Wild Thing" can be made better. I think Thall describes that as putting it out back in the dumpster...lol.
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Al Smith
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On that little blurb of electric saws you might be surprised to know that they were used in larger forms some many year ago.
As was the case before dependable smaller gasoline engines were available,they hauled big old generators into the woods and gnawed away.The only other option at the time was an axe and a two man crosscut.
My grandfather had a Craftsman electric,probabley from the 60's which my father ended up with and most likely myself in time.It actually isn't too bad for what it is.It has plenty of power just isn't any speed demon.Not too noisey and always starts.A lot can be said for this.
As was the case before dependable smaller gasoline engines were available,they hauled big old generators into the woods and gnawed away.The only other option at the time was an axe and a two man crosscut.
My grandfather had a Craftsman electric,probabley from the 60's which my father ended up with and most likely myself in time.It actually isn't too bad for what it is.It has plenty of power just isn't any speed demon.Not too noisey and always starts.A lot can be said for this.
bcorradi
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And easy on fuel i bet as long as your not using a generator to power it....
Hired Gun
ArboristSite Operative
I was going to pick up a cheapy electric to keep on my porch for zipping blocks of wood that are just a hair too big to fit in the stove. It would come in rather handy and my girlfriend would use it. That was my thought when I cared about noise and my neighbors. Since they have no regard for their noise level at any time I think a modified 385 will be used for this small blocking duty this year, and yes I will use it at 3 AM if I have the need. :angry2:
