036 oiling

[tony marks]

ok this is the 036 ive mentioned before.
its oiling and everything and is fast becoming my go to saw. fast an lite.
does seem to need a little more bar oil in tough cut,althiough it slings plenty with the standard test . otherwise shes all i could have hoped for. an 028 with what seems like twice the power.
is there an adjust somewhere on the saw . i dont see one but this is apparently not a very old saw.
ie, has compression release ,brake etc of newer saws.
if not i can just rev it a little and it works fine.ive already added kerosene to the bar oil. this was when it really started showing me what it could do.thanks much for any advice. tm

 

[Harley]

Look on the bottom of the saw. There should be a little emblem of a cutter tooth with a drop of oil next to it. The arrow gets wider towards the direction of increased oil flow. You need a thin screw driver to reach the screw.

 

[glens]

The photo ain't the best (only in that the bottom of the saw is perhaps a little too beat up for purposes of this illustration), but just a tiny tad south of the exact middle of <a href="http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_fe680e9e0c574371177f05e144df498a/i-4_B_L.JPG">this image</a>, in the gap between the handle/crankcase assemblies, on the chain side, and about midway front to back in that gap, you'll see the hole where the screw that Harley mentioned "lives".

The image should be familiar to some of the regulars here and I take no credit for it whatsoever.

 

[tony marks]

thanks much fellas . i thot it had
to have an adjustment . just never looked on the bottum. sure appreciate the info.tm

 

[tree_reaper]

My month and a half old ms 310 doesnt put much oil on the bar either. Even when it is turned all the way up. Dealer seemed to think thats ok. My new Husky 372 xp puts out 3 times as much oil with the oiler turned only a third of the way open. Stihl characteristic ? I dont know. Anyone else experiencing this with their Stihl?

 

[stihltech]

oil

How much oil is in the tank when you run out of fuel?

 

[ricksvar]

I've had/have the same problem with my MS290.It oils(maxed out),but not enough to satisfy me.As for as bar oil goes I don't want just enough,but more than enough to keep the bar well lubed.It's just stingy with bar oil and thats not good for the saw.

My 026 oils great,puts out more then enough oil and thats the way I like it.

Rick

 

[stihltech]

oilers

My point is , if the tank is close to empty when you run out of fuel, that is all there is. If you run out of oil first, you run the risk of pump failure in any mechanical pump saw.
Case in point. I started with an 031 which would never use more than half a tank of oil. Out of pure laziness, I used it that way for 3 years. When I traded saws, I pulled it apart to find the problem. A partial blockage of the pump passage.
But, I never had bar wear as a problem. I kept it sharp. Bar was not too hot. I used a 16 and 20 inch bar on the saw.
I think they have figured out that it doesn't take that much bar oil to do the job with proper chain maintenance. The oil jet is more precise in applying the oil. Most Stihl pumps no longer have any springs inside, so if the oil goes in the pump it must come out .

Also the deal in Europe is the need to use biodegradable bar oil. At its high cost, any reduction in amount used can be quite a savings. Same is true with petroleum bar oil, but we just don't seem to worry about it here as long as the price remains low.

Still comes down to a properly maintained chain. What good does all that bar oil on the ground do anyway? The chain is the thing that needs the lube, not my boot.

 

[tree_reaper]

stihl tech

My oil tank is over 1/2 full after running out of gas. The 2nd day I used it (310) sparks started flying off the tip of the bar. ( Yes, I thoroughly clean my saws.) I immediately shut it off & brought it to the dealer. A small wood chip had plugged the oiler hole. He fired it back up, gave it the oiler test but it still was putting out very little oil. He said that was sufficient. Maybe thats why the Germans manufacture the pro series, like the dealer said we Americans can't hold tight enough tolerances for the Germans. IMO it doesnt put out enough oil but it runs & cuts just fine. I am happier with the 372xp Husky and my next saw will be another Husky(385xp). And I have yet to get any oil on my boots just a whole lotta chips!

 

[ricksvar]

tree_reaper,
I took my Stihl into the dealer I purchased it from.They checked it and said it was fine.I also got a lecture on the wonders of the ematic oiling system.

With a sharp chain the bar(20") under full load gets hot hot hot!
I've touched the chain and burned a blister on my finger!

But I don't get any oil on my boots,thats another wonder of the ematic oiling system

Rick

 

[Larry Pullen]

oiler oil

I have a five gallon pail of hydrolic oil (clean) left from when I had an old tractor - question - can I use this in my 036 oiler?

 

[Fish]

Hey Larry,
Glad you made it!
You could use it with no problems. Or trade it at a local mower/
tractor shop for a few gallons of bar oil, hydraulic oil is more
costly, so they may just trade out with you.

 

[stihltech]

oiler

1/2 tank should be enough with a sharp chain. Dirty and sandy wood may require more, but that is due to the dulling of the chain.

The problems i encounter usually end up with something restricting the pump intake.

So how many think the resins in bar oil are a waste of money.

 

[JimL]

I got 12 stihl saws that run, 7 066's, 2 038's, 2 028's, and an 020. I don't have any oiler problems with any of these saws. They all put out more than enough baroil to suit me. Only one that is remotely screwed up is the 038magnum that I didn't put the pin in right and the adjuster spins a complete 360, still worked fine.

 

[tony marks]

well i guess i ought to mention that with u guys good advice my 036 is just a little better in heavy cut now and oiling well.
cant be more than just a little better . cause it was already as good as u could hope for.this saw has been my most pleasant surprise since i started fooling with various type saws,and was made for my kinda work. if thats bragging ,so be it . its also the way it is.12.5lbsp[dry without bar] and will pull a 20 inch in anything i run into.

 

[stihltech]

oil

What was the cure?

 

[tony marks]

stihltech. im embarrassed to say the oiler just needed turning up. i guess everybody knew where the stihl 036 oil adjustment was but me. truth is thats something ive never done much with.
guess its time. like i said before ,im just a 30 yr user of equipment,not a mechanic. my one claim is that in the past ive got a good record with getting longivity out of combustion motors of any kind.i learn the machine and how to take care of it.i would also admit ive learned
more now than i ever knew before finding this forum.thats thanks to u,an fish ,and a host of other good mechanics
willing to give us tips. thanks much. yall have a merry christmas.

 

[stihltech]

oil

Just hope all your problems turn out to be that easy to fix.

Merry Xmas!