2 cycle oil choices

[sean donato]

So , where did I say it was bad ? Roflmao !

Ah, no I should have quoted the quote from bwalker. Not you lol.

 

[North by Northwest]

Ah, no I should have quoted the quote from bwalker. Not you lol.

No foul Sean , lol. I knew you had misquoted . Actually , I have a gallon of the Lucas semi synthetic product in the oil cabinet as a back up oil , that I still run my gas trimmer with . Its a blended oil that is quite effective within reduced smoke production in close quarter use , just a reliable all around user product . If it was full synthetic such as Maxima 927 or 800 T or Sabre I would use it even more . Being low ash it was also effective within reduction of build up on the power valves on my Polaris 700 liberty engine , which is a priority . I would rate it as a solid FC specification oil , not quite a FD compliant oil within my various application usages . A quality oil all the same !

 

[Ted Jenkins]

I have run Walmart Supertech bar oil for years. I sure haven't had any bar or chain problems with it.
I really dont think it matters a whole lot on what bar oil you use.
Stihl bar oil is more tacky IMO.

For more than ten years have been using mostly Supertech 20-50 for bar oil. Prior to Walmart what ever parts stores carried and of course worked fine. On all my saws have tweaked the oil pump a little so that after a fuel tank the oil is gone too. I have a couple of saws that I have been using for more than forty years. From racing and building race motors I have noticed that there does not exist a perfect two stroke oil. All oils have pros and cons. When My son was racing we had a heck of a time keeping his engines in one piece because they were not running warm enough. Some oils work better in some conditions than others. For at least thirty years I did not have to buy two stroke oil because it was supplied so would mix five gallons to ten gallons a week. There was always premix left over for chain saws. The last few years when I have had to buy oil I have settled on Supertech which I have had no issues with and have torn down a couple of motors to see nothing unusual. A well tuned motor will give an extra ordinary service life that often out last OP. Thanks

 

[North by Northwest]

For more than ten years have been using mostly Supertech 20-50 for bar oil. Prior to Walmart what ever parts stores carried and of course worked fine. On all my saws have tweaked the oil pump a little so that after a fuel tank the oil is gone too. I have a couple of saws that I have been using for more than forty years. From racing and building race motors I have noticed that there does not exist a perfect two stroke oil. All oils have pros and cons. When My son was racing we had a heck of a time keeping his engines in one piece because they were not running warm enough. Some oils work better in some conditions than others. For at least thirty years I did not have to buy two stroke oil because it was supplied so would mix five gallons to ten gallons a week. There was always premix left over for chain saws. The last few years when I have had to buy oil I have settled on Supertech which I have had no issues with and have torn down a couple of motors to see nothing unusual. A well tuned motor will give an extra ordinary service life that often out last OP. Thanks

Same here Ted , during my younger years , had Sponsorship from Quaker State & Sunoco for oil & fuel during my snowmobile racing days , always had extra Premix laying around for saws & other 2 stroke units lol. I even used Super Tech Marine grade oil for my outboards during the 80 's . It was price friendly & a quality oil at the time. The good old days..eh bud !

 

[Den]

I have used Amsoil Full Synthetic from day one. Works great and never had an issue with engine failure. Also, I always use high octane, non-ethanol gasoline in two-stroke stuff.

I use Amsoil in cars, trucks, line trimmers, chainsaws, riding tractor, push mower, 4x4 Diesel utility tractor, everything.

Also use a slight bit of "Stabil" additive in each can of two-stroke fuel I mix up. Store in a metal can, in a temperature controlled environment. Never let it sit around for more than three weeks. Always shake the can before using. And if the saw has sat for a day or two with 3/4 tank in it... shake the saw to mix whats already in the tank.
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[North by Northwest]

I have used Amsoil Full Synthetic from day one. Works great and never had an issue with engine failure. Also, I always use high octane, non-ethanol gasoline in two-stroke stuff.

I use Amsoil in cars, trucks, line trimmers, chainsaws, riding tractor, push mower, 4x4 Diesel utility tractor, everything.

Also use a slight bit of "Stabil" additive in each can of two-stroke fuel I mix up. Store in a metal can, in a temperature controlled environment. Never let it sit around for more than three weeks. Always shake the can before using. And if the saw has sat for a day or two with 3/4 tank in it... shake the saw to mix whats already in the tank.
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If your using Saber Den , you will not require any fuel stabilizer . It already has a additive within the blend . I used Amsoil for 10 yrs without any fuel related issues . Good preventative measures though !

 

[farberdaniel5]

any one still run sae 30 weight oil in their saws still since that was the original OG mix

I know an old logger that still does. One quart SAE 30 Non-Detergent to 5 gallons of non ethanol gas with a shot glass of marvel mystery oil in it. Ive known him almost 30 years and all he's ever run.

 

[damifino]

Old oil threads never die. That's a beautiful thing.

 

[North by Northwest]

I know an old logger that still does. One quart SAE 30 Non-Detergent to 5 gallons of non ethanol gas with a shot glass of marvel mystery oil in it. Ive known him almost 30 years and all he's ever run.

Thats all we used in the 60's thru the early 70's , no such thing as a dedicated 2 stroke motor oil back then lol .

 

[johnfawn2000]

Never said it was the best oil to use , choice is up to who ever wants to use it l believe if ur a faller or sell wood for living ur using ur saws pretty hard for hours on end at relatively high rpms in blazing heat or freezing cold and hopefully ur not throwing saws away often, there rather expensive if ported

Dear Squareground 3691, I was reading about 2 cycle oil , then you was talking about motul 800 , I was thinking about trying it. I have read alot on here about mixing oil.
This is pick your poison. I couldn't sleep , back crap , another story.
Square , I use either amsoil saber, or maxima K2 , here is the kicker I mix it 32 to1 high test or premium gas, for all these years . I cant bring myself to do 50 to or 100 to one. That might work in a perfect world. I want cushion in case my saw has and air leak or the gas is little out of kilter from normal.
Then I saw your two cents and mine also would motul 800 be a good candidate . This stuff sounds like fists fights could start . There is a lot opinions or bung holes about 2 cycle oil , wow. Who do you suggest to purchase it from.
I like what I am using and I switch around from saber and back to
Maxima K2 , there is another I bought in 5 gallon plastic can , I think call something 937 , suppose to be real good protection. I can remember in the 60's and 70's using 16 to 1 in trimmers and saws. Does the extra oil I am using cause a problem or will cause in future problem. I recently had a saw husqvarna 346 xp , took a dump on me, after 22 years I think and no compression. There is no scoring , but in the bottom was a collection of 2 cycle oil in area where crankshaft bearings are located, not a lot but enough to keep crankshaft bearing well lubricated . This a good thing or bad thing , Square . Buck , in n.c.

 

[Squareground3691]

Dear Squareground 3691, I was reading about 2 cycle oil , then you was talking about motul 800 , I was thinking about trying it. I have read alot on here about mixing oil.
This is pick your poison. I couldn't sleep , back crap , another story.
Square , I use either amsoil saber, or maxima K2 , here is the kicker I mix it 32 to1 high test or premium gas, for all these years . I cant bring myself to do 50 to or 100 to one. That might work in a perfect world. I want cushion in case my saw has and air leak or the gas is little out of kilter from normal.
Then I saw your two cents and mine also would motul 800 be a good candidate . This stuff sounds like fists fights could start . There is a lot opinions or bung holes about 2 cycle oil , wow. Who do you suggest to purchase it from.
I like what I am using and I switch around from saber and back to
Maxima K2 , there is another I bought in 5 gallon plastic can , I think call something 937 , suppose to be real good protection. I can remember in the 60's and 70's using 16 to 1 in trimmers and saws. Does the extra oil I am using cause a problem or will cause in future problem. I recently had a saw husqvarna 346 xp , took a dump on me, after 22 years I think and no compression. There is no scoring , but in the bottom was a collection of 2 cycle oil in area where crankshaft bearings are located, not a lot but enough to keep crankshaft bearing well lubricated . This a good thing or bad thing , Square . Buck , in n.c.

Been using Dominator for a little while now and have good results , it burns pretty clean and a few well known saw builder friends use it , so that’s good enough for me,

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

The thing with 32 or 25 or lower it starts leaving carbon behind. It chokes up the exhaust port and eventually can score up your piston. Ya bearings love it however.

I've got a few dead saws from a guy and have formed a pattern....

He runs 25 and usually cheap standard old whatever oil he can find.

They all choked up and scored up. I'll fix a few. Bearings are fine

I run every 2 stroke I own on motul 800 have done since I was like 12. 40/1.

Rg250. Scooter. 80s 125s 250 now and all my saws and victa 2 strokes

At 40 it hardly smokes in a saw. Doesn't burn your eyes or nose hairs like some oil infact it smells lovely. Really does.

My buddies all motul 800. It literally is just the standard oil for our crowd of 2t dirt bikers and as I turned into a saw guy I've naturally just used it and seen reason not too

Real nice oil.

Anything synthetic at 40

I dunno whats a newer saw like at 50/1 after yesrs n years on stihl oil? Carbon wise.

I only have older saws n usually old buggers at 25/1.

 

[huskihl]

The thing with 32 or 25 or lower it starts leaving carbon behind. It chokes up the exhaust port and eventually can score up your piston. Ya bearings love it however.

I've got a few dead saws from a guy and have formed a pattern....

He runs 25 and usually cheap standard old whatever oil he can find.

They all choked up and scored up. I'll fix a few. Bearings are fine

I run every 2 stroke I own on motul 800 have done since I was like 12. 40/1.

Rg250. Scooter. 80s 125s 250 now and all my saws and victa 2 strokes

At 40 it hardly smokes in a saw. Doesn't burn your eyes or nose hairs like some oil infact it smells lovely. Really does.

My buddies all motul 800. It literally is just the standard oil for our crowd of 2t dirt bikers and as I turned into a saw guy I've naturally just used it and seen reason not too

Real nice oil.

Anything synthetic at 40

I dunno whats a newer saw like at 50/1 after yesrs n years on stihl oil? Carbon wise.

I only have older saws n usually old buggers at 25/1.

If your oil builds carbon at 32:1, it’s the oil, not the ratio. There are many oils today that leave the exhaust flange shiny aluminum in a saw. Some are full synthetic, some semi, some conventional

 

[huskihl]

Ragged out ported 2153 (346) with 4 years of firewood duty. Even the tan color wipes off like grease

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

If your oil builds carbon at 32:1, it’s the oil, not the ratio. There are many oils today that leave the exhaust flange shiny aluminum in a saw. Some are full synthetic, some semi, some conventional

Well that's really the big question. What type of oil leaves carbon?? I get old saws off old boys at 25 or 32 and yup carbon in the port. Is that really just cheap crappy oil??

Im impressed with that 346.

The other question I guess is tune and it seems 99 percent have no idea about it and its very much luck if its been lean n burned up or not

Average joe sees no problem until its stopped

 

[johnfawn2000]

If your oil builds carbon at 32:1, it’s the oil, not the ratio. There are many oils today that leave the exhaust flange shiny aluminum in a saw. Some are full synthetic, some semi, some conventional

Dear Huskihl , what oil was the
2152 (346) using , since it's the oil not ratio. I haven't seen this in mine. I have used amsoil SABRE
and maxima K2 for twenty years or more. The only part that looks good for the 2152 , is in side the case, jug, piston, and maybe crank shaft. I was talking to square , and he was very helpful . This subject is like Democrats and Republicans, and we are for the people they say. I am for the two burners and making them last and taking care of my equipment , not cutting corners to have extra jingle in my pockets. Thanks Huski
Buck

 

[huskihl]

Dear Huskihl , what oil was the
2152 (346) using , since it's the oil not ratio. I haven't seen this in mine. I have used amsoil SABRE
and maxima K2 for twenty years or more. The only part that looks good for the 2152 , is in side the case, jug, piston, and maybe crank shaft. I was talking to square , and he was very helpful . This subject is like Democrats and Republicans, and we are for the people they say. I am for the two burners and making them last and taking care of my equipment , not cutting corners to have extra jingle in my pockets. Thanks Huski
Buck

That is about 30 gallons of mix using Amsoil Dominator at 32:1