Big_Wood
westcoast dweller
i don't recall ever being in the woods and being able to see more then 20' in front of me. at least before i hacked the area down lol
225 acre hardwood lot worth ?
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i don't recall ever being in the woods and being able to see more then 20' in front of me. at least before i hacked the area down lol
Toddburton
ArboristSite Lurker
Ok ic and what kind of log is that ? Maybe it's all garbage know my land not sure yet I will let you all know tho !
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
I have the feeling that if you had much highgrade, loggers would be knocking at your door, especially the ones that logged you neighbors bush, but still you never know.
The pics I posted were Rock Maple and Black Cherry.
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
You mean like this?
Toddburton
ArboristSite Lurker
It was done by local guy 14 years ago that sold the outfit after 5 years or so he didn't like it , the other one as I said was for firewood for people around home, not arguing it very well could be junk if it is I won't be hurt just here looking for the info you guys gave me !
Those are some big trees man !we have rock maple at home as well
Those are some big trees man !we have rock maple at home as well
7k is what i'll get out of the timber... roughly half will go towards stumping etc, 150 an acre a guy would be laughed out of the woods around here
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
Not a bad lil paycheck. It takes me 6 months to make that kind of green up here, but expenses are minimal and the wood is always close by. Its a curse I tell you, it's a curse! Lol, but I like it.
ChoppyChoppy
Tree Freak
Yeah, but didn't you say something like 60 cords off 1/2 acre (even still way too much though, I've never paid more than $50/cord for timber). Around here we might see 4-6 cords an acre.
Zackly. I'd give anybody the same advice, too, and have. I've even acted as expert witness on a timber theft case based on the exact same advice, namely "this is what your forester didn't give you". I'm no expert on woods more than about 200 miles from where I currently live and work, and even then my expertise fails the further I get from home. Forestry is all about local knowledge. It's not easy to accumulate, and experts are few and far between. We call on each other a lot to fill in gaps in knowledge. That's one of the many reasons for professional associations like SAF (Society of American Foresters). It gives you an idea of who to call when you need to know something that you don't know. The rest is all about networking.
What is a ported?
Toddburton
ArboristSite Lurker
A Porter....couldn't put that one together?
Phone likes to spell and add words lol
Phone likes to spell and add words lol
12,000 bf in three loads so far, another 7k-9k bf I'm either waiting on the check or its sitting on the landing or standing on the stump,
So 19000+- bf all said and done... ish... off .5 acres, not sure what that translates into cords, roughly 11 cord to the truck load. so 55cord?
I leave cord counting to the firewood guys. Pulp isn't really a market in these parts, and firewood has been taken over by tweekers and adicts, or dudes with firewood processors. For me to cut and split 2 cord a day, I would only get about $50 after fuel etc.
Then I don't really pay stumpage either, I go percentage of the load, easier math for everyone involved, 50% is the starting point. Roughly $90 a cord depending on species.
So, what is a Porter? I've not heard of that.
Toddburton
ArboristSite Lurker
Skidder Porter? Your logging machines not sure what u call them
Skidders, we got. Forwarders aren't used much around here but I did see one used to tie a guyline to for a yarder set up.
Porter is a guy what carries/drags luggage, usually at a fancy Hotel.
Skidder is a usually rubber tired articulating tractor what carries/drags logs.
Back east they are fond of forwarders, like a skidder but with bunks and a crane to load said bunks. Bitzer runs an older one.
Skidder is a usually rubber tired articulating tractor what carries/drags logs.
Back east they are fond of forwarders, like a skidder but with bunks and a crane to load said bunks. Bitzer runs an older one.
Toddburton
ArboristSite Lurker
Yes that's the style home have there own picker and carriee to take the logs out on the SKIDDER hah
If ya wanna be more then a little crooked there is lots of money in timber down here. The dude I bid against, bid 30k to stump it and remove brush, they keep the timber, and wanted 3k to move the machine in. The ****** up thing is these guys are staying busy...
Granted I screwed this bid up, in I would clear it for the timber alone, so I probably won't make a whole lot of money on it as most of the brush is going to get hauled of at around 800 a load for trucking and dump fees.
I did manage to get a burn permit so where going to piss off all the neighbors and torch as much as possible.
First and last time I've seen a forwarder hereabouts was on Champion ground in 1996 or 1997. Haven't seen one since.
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
Forwarders were quite popular for pulpwood in pine plantations for row thinning. I once had a Treefarmer forwarder with an air cooled Deutz with an 8' bunk, but sold it because when loaded it had to much ground pressure and made ruts. They are a fun machine to operate, great for stacking and sorting on the landing.
