270/280 info

[ricksvar]

Just a thought the 270/280 will likely be 4mix.All companys are under the gun to meet 2005 EPA guidelines.Why introduce a new product that does not meet them now?

That's my opinion,opinions are like elbows,everybodys got a couple

 

[bwalker]

Just a thought the 270/280 will likely be 4mix.All companys are under the gun to meet 2005 EPA guidelines.Why introduce a new product that does not meet them now?

Maybe they figure the emmisions regs will be softened somewhat like the snowmobile regs where. Also keep in mind that the emmisions regs will likely be a polution credit type thing where you could still have some two strokes in your line. I wouldnt be suprised to see these regs on small engines be softened alot. Especially if Bush gets relected.

 

[bwalker]

I was just cruising around www.delphion.com looking up patents that Stihl has filed this year. It looks like they are all two stroke related. It looks like they have some pretty cool stuff in the works.

 

[Fish]

This has come up again. Like many e-lux saws the consumer
Stihls has an engine unit, ALL metal, except for the seals, which
is bolted onto a plastic body, which some of you all refer to as
a crankcase, but it is not. I have seen this in Husky and Jonsered
before Stihl started this design. Some models employ the same fasteners to hold the bottom cap/crankcase bottom to the
plastic saw body, some have seperate fasteners for the saw
body and the bottom {METAL} cap. I doubt that these new
Stihls have a magnesium "crankcase", but are variations of
either the 021,023,025 series, or the 029,310,039 series.
If it is a 4 cycle, then it must be something altogether
different, and I doubt it will be made as well as the older stuff
anyway,

 

[jsikkema1]

Stihl is behind the development curve on 2 stroke emisions development
They have realeased a power head made by a japanese outfit on their trimmers to meet CARB requirements...

 

[bwalker]

Which model is that Jeff?

 

[Methoss084]

It would be slick if Stihl brought back a saw that was similar to the 028 with it's characteristics, the saw is legendary. But I hope they don't stamp a 280 on it and pawn it off as the same saw, And find its a piece of @#!!!. Stihltech is right though, when you work on the 029 all the time its like second nature. I can see though how it would be difficult for those who don't tackle them as often. As far as 4mix goes I know that we have a bunch of T2500 Shindiawa trimmers coming in the Spring order. Has anyone on the left coast has a chance to tear into one of these?

 

[stihltech]

270

The last word I got was he bottom end is magnesium, not like the 021-039. The cylinder extends to the crank.

 

[BTSchmidt]

After much reading, on this site mainly, I am thinking of purchasing a new MS260. I am used to a small saw and after handling some saws like the weight and feel of this saw. It should be fine for my firewood cutting and occasional clearing and construction (beam sawing and demo) work.

I am not a pro. I don't want a throw-away saw. I don't need high performance but want good quality and light weight. I can purchase through and industrial supplier for $30 more than a 290 Farm Boss.

I have 2 questions.

1- Should I wait for the 280 to come out? or get the 260? I don't need the saw today but could use it. I still have my old Craftsman to get me by. Or should I just get the 260 and be happy and not look back?

2- I don't need big performance but undertand a little about small engines ( I ride dirt bikes for a hobby). Is buying a $30 Walkerized muffler going to help performance and let the engine aspirate properly? Do I need to re-jet after doing this?
Many of the old posts about modifying the 260 were archived and/or photos no longer working etc... I read all I could find. I plan to run .325 full chisel (safety) with a 20" bar. If the saw comes with 3/8 chain (they come with 20" bars here) will that be ok? Many of you seem to like the .325 and 18" barsfor this size saw. Since I am not purchasing from a dealer, I don't know if one will swap sprockets and bars to switch to .325. Paying for the switch would be around $100 with new chains.

Thanks for your help

 

[treeclimber165]

BTSchmidt

Sounds like the 026 (MS260) will be a good match for your needs. I run an 18" .325 on mine and that is the preferred setup at my local dealers. I don't think I've seen one at a dealer with a 3/8" setup. 20" is pushing the capacity of this saw slightly, especially if the chain is not kept razor-sharp.
Muffler mods are easy. Simply remove the muffler and open up the restrictive outlet to about the same size as the exhaust port. Smooth off any protruding edges of the gasket so they do not interfere with exhaust flow. You will probably need to re-adjust the carb afterwards, but that is basic maintenance. Here is the best guide I've found for carb adjustment. http://www.madsens1.com/sawtune.htm
The 026 is a proven design well liked and preferred by many pros. It has been in production long enough to get most of the 'bugs' worked out. The 270/280 is an unknown. Buy the 260 and don't look back.

 

[whodunnit]

BTschmidt,

Why not wait and take a look at the 270/280. Someone has to be the first!!!

 

[stihltech]

270

No sense of adventure?

I am not sure if it is a consumer or pro saw yet. Like I said, the line is blurred. Gonna be tough to replace the 260, but it was tough to replace the 028 also.
280 is promised in March.

 

[treeclimber165]

Stihl never did replace the 028. Everyone just learned to work without the perfect size smaller saw. Now we just get by with the 026 and grab the 044 a few cuts sooner.
If Stihl drops the 026, I may have to try a Husky (GASP) when this 026 kicks the bucket.

 

[BTSchmidt]

280 info

Ok Mr. Stihltech,

I'll be adventurous. But can you tell me a little more about the 280 since I will have to wait till March now?

Like will it be between the 260 and the 360 in power/displacement/weight...I hope so, would be perfect if it was a pro quality saw right between these...say about 55-58cc's with a capacity to run a 20" bar and a weight of 11#'s.

Please tell me this is close to what this saw (the 280) will be and I'll gladly wait three months to purchase one.

 

[Tony Snyder]

If ALL you guys don't know, there are at least three construction types being built today.

1. The cylinder with top crankcase inclusive that bolts to a plastic chassis. (341)

2. The cylinder with a metal bottom crankcase half that in turn bolts to a plastic chassis. (350)

3. The cylinder crankcase top and bottom and chassis are all metal. (351)

And if you want to consider it a fourth type, some still have metal rewind housings and sprocket covers.


In all three cases the tanks and other sub parts are plastic.

If you think of it as being three types of construction, not two, things will become clearer.

 

[stihltech]

280

In the price book with NO info other than available in March. Maybe at the tech school.