372XP...Dream Machine???

[sawracr]

OK Tony, Stihl and I got 'em on the ropes, tag in any time now. Jon

 

[ricksvar]

I think Jon made his point.

If the carbs adjusted per users manual settings,I would think so,would'nt you?

Rick

 

[sawracr]

Rick, things have become so involved now day with, EPA and CARB engines, not to mention that the limiter caps are an intrical part of the mixture screw, that the owners manual can't tell an owner how to set his saw. No bull, you should ask your local dealer to set your carb. Jon

 

[ricksvar]

Hi Jon,

Thanks for the info.I'll be able to handle it.The answer to Stihltech's question is no,warranty void.

Rick

 

[Dennis]

Husky dealers

I know exactly what daveb is talking about !! I just got a phone call from my Husky rep stating that I had to purchase 14 chainsaws (to add to the 15 units on hand) and 10 lawn/garden units( to add to the 6 units left from last year) by Dec. 31/02 to keep my dealership....by the time I got off the floor laughing, he had hung up. Told him to take the dealership elsewhere....now we are going to have 3 chainsaw dealerships (all different brands) within 5 blocks of each other, in a town of 5000 people. Did I mention one of our two local mills is shutting its doors in March?? The funny part is I can buy Husky saws cheaper from a good friend of mine than I can the dist. go figure??

Husky's big deal with the lawn and garden units was "don't pay till June" lmao...we still have snow in June, and noone is buying lawn and garden until July....then they go to the box stores and buy the 99 dollar specials...GO ELUX!!

thanks for letting me vent..

 

[AJLOGGER]

The problem that Dennis and fun-chopper described is one of the reasons why I am hesitant about buying a husky. The way I look at it is you can't go wrong with a Stihl, maybe husky has springs instead of bushings and they may be a little cheaper, but when it comes to performance they both are so close it is splitting hairs (if you are really truthfull about it) But I would rather take my buisness to a Stihl dealer because the way husky is going is really pissing me off with internet sells, department store sells and the demands they are putting on their dealers, I mean are they trying to force themselves out of the market? I know of a couple of other saw makers that used to make a good product but they did the same thing. I am not a dealer but they are the life blood of a good professional tool and if you do not have a good dealer network or they are out of buisness because Lowes down the road put them out or the stupid dist. put unreal demands on a mom and pop operation then tell me what your springs and cheaper saw are worth! Sorry this is a little long, I am now prepared to accept the bashing!

P.S. If Stihl started doing this I will turn into a chainsaw nun

 

[slowtorque1]

Huskies at Lowes

Yes, I was sorry to see that Husky has adopted this strategy. A chainsaw is a very dangerous tool and it has about the highest maintenance requirement of anything a consumer is likely to own. Couple that with the fact that a poorly maintained saw is even more dangerous, and you realize just how important it is to spend some time with a new customer on these issues. Stihl has so far retained this ability through their dealers (I know, they all don't do it justice), but Husky has abandoned it in favor of capturing a greater share of the market. Maybe their stockholders are impressed: I am not!

 

[fun_chopper]

If husky where independent of elux, then they wouldnt do that. The problem is E-lux is marketing low end huskys as high end consumer saws. I know that some modles are made at the poulan plant here in the us, and these saws are being sold as hig end consumer saws. I heard (unverified) that only a dealer and not a retailer can sell anything with a XP suffix on it. The problem here in about 5 years is husky will be thought of in the consumer world as worthless just like poulan because people will abuse, and destroy their saws, and then we might see hope, elux may shift the husky line back to the pro dealers!

 

[shoot501]

My local Stihl/Husky dealer is a mom/pop run shop. After Lowes started the Husky thing here Husqvarna insisted this small shop carry the full line of products, including high dollar mowers. So now there is room for more Stihls on the shelf, not enough space or money at this shop. They dropped Husqvarna, but said they would try to keep working on their old customers saws.

 

[slowtorque1]

Now that I think about it

I was in a shop the other day in Raleigh and noted that they only had one Husky and a bunch of Stihls. Looks like they might have gotten dropped, too. Formerly, they had an equal share of the two on hand. They sell commercial mowers like ExMark and such and probably have little use for Husky mowers. Wonder how long it will take Elux to recognize they may have lost as much or more than they expected to gain?

 

[AJLOGGER]

I doubt they will ever care, big companies like that, that buy up other companies use them for a while milk what they can and then drop them, after they are done with them the company and the name are worth nothing. At least it hasn't happened yet, remember homelite and mac.

 

[Stumper]

Husky isn't alone in this. I know of one dealer who had to fight to keep his Stihl dealership because he was service oriented and preferred to not stock new saws. They pushed him into stocking but he had to fight tooth and nail to avoid taking on a large stock. My current saw mechanic deals everything but Stihl, because he does,t stock saws just services them. He will happily order whatever you want-except Stihl-for that he'll send you to the stocking dealer down the road. I guess he'll have to start sending people to Lowes for Husqvarna (or order them at retail from a mail order place and then mark it up for the customer)

 

[chainsawworld]

i don't care what you bought or where, i'll work on it. i guess i'm just a people person

 

[dbabcock]

A very safe people person.

 

[stihltech]

Stihl

Yes, Stihl is pushing a stock of 30 units at all times. Here it is not a problem as we have to order at least every 2 weeks to keep the shelves stocked. I understand it is tougher on the little guy.
Actually, I always thought of this store as the little guy.

 

[ricksvar]

Yep,I'am a people person too.You've got good apples and sour apples.Every now and then even a sour apple needs a hand.I'll stick my hand out to help,no questions asked.

Then you have folks,because of money(it's the economy stupid argument)that don't want to service your internet saw(business ethics).Granted service will likely result in additional future sales but they may just void the warranty to make their point.It's a "strong arm" sales tactic somewhat like "blackmail".All your saw purchases are from ME or WE don't do business.

As a result Home Depot,Lowes,etc and the internet are buyers options.Enjoy your options.

To all people persons and scrooges,
Happy Holidays

 

[AJLOGGER]

I see no problem with the dist. wanting a certain amount of supply on the shelf thats just having a good all around product line, but you have to be realistic about it. And stumper I agree with Stihl wanting your mechanic to stock Stihl saws, why should he have a dealership with Stihl if he doesn't even want to stock their saws, I do not want to sound cold or mean but chevy wouldn't let me be a chevy dealer if I didn't put a chevy on the lot

 

[fun_chopper]

I think that Stihl is trying to stay ahead of the curve here, push more saws, and keep one step ahead. They have to in this day and age, because e-lux like the grim reaper is closing in on everybody. It wouldnt shock me if in ten years all saws actually all outdoor power equip is e-lux. The way I see it Stihl is a free trading company on the market, and all it takes is a small slump in profits for stock to fall and e-lux to buy up controlling power. Thats exactly how they got almost all of their competition. It is the same old senerio Boeing, and McDonnell Douglass, buy the competition, and compete against yourself!

 

[Stumper]

AJ, I don't disagree-companies can make whatever rules they deem appropriate regarding distributerships. I just want to make it clear that Husky isn't the only one who makes it hard to be a small dealer. Both of the mechanics I mentioned are in small towns where another stocking dealer exists. -They are in a position to make a few sales to customers that trust them but aren't set up in business structure or location to retail in any large quantity.

 

[bwalker]

The way I see it Stihl is a free trading company on the market,

Stihl to the best of my knowledge is not as publicly held company. Its still family owned.