Freakingstang said:
lo, that was good, seriously. You must be one of those types that would argue with a brick, huh?
Have you seen and picked up a 575? It is a totally differant crankcase. Must have lead in it.
I was referring to the 441 weight in the last post. Same saw with a new air filtration system and A/V mounts, and a pound heavier? The 575 isn't the same saw/case/etc as the 372.
Now, by running the saw at the recommended 150:1 amsoil ratio, it looses 2 lbs.
-Steve
That is a good idea. Mind if I borrow your saw to do a ratio/weigh test? Don't worry, I'll start rich...
I am not looking for an argument - I just prefer facts to speculation. And I get tired of everyone blamming the government we elect for everything that is wrong. I am sure you are correct about the changes in the new saws- but a lot of it does not make sense to me. And it is to easy for rednecks like us to blame the EPA for everything and think that we would all be better off with air like mexico city. I simply do not believe that the 441 gained over a pound because of the EPA.
For example - take motorcycles. That industry is subject to heavy clean air regulation, yet technology yeilds lighter and more powerful bikes each year. I just do not understand why some of the most popular saws for Stihl and Husky are gaining weight.
I thought some of it may be in anticipation of a leaner mix required by future emission regulations- this would lead to higher operating temps and perhaps these new saws were running a more robust internal structure in anticipation of those future demands - i.e. super lean mixtures.
But neither the 440 nor the 372 had any reliability problems- and so I do not see any other reason for the increased weight. My assumption would have been that the new saws would be lighter and more powerful than my old 260p/346xp/044/460 generation.
But I have been proven wrong.
Due to the bad response most of this site had to the new Husky, I found a 372 online for my friend in Vermont today. That got me thinking about the 441- Did I want to pick up a 372 or a 440 for myself as well today in anticipation of the heavier replacement saw even though I do not need a new saw right now?
I went to my Stihl dealer this afternoon after I ordered a 372 online for my friend. The dealer knew nothing about the 441- and so I decided to wait until I can make an informed decision. Right now, I simply can not understand why one of Stihl's most important saws is gaining weight. There must be an upside- but I have no idea what it is.
It seems to me that technology should be yielding lighter / more powerful saws. I like the new air induction system, and it looks sleek- but not sleek enough to make it worth carring 460 weight with 440 power.
-Mike
