ChoppyChoppy
Tree Freak
Oh I agree, my math would were just figures "guessed" using a tree about every 20 ft. Your explanation makes complete sense. Timber crusing is a tough job.
4 acres in x days?
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Joe46
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Be leaving soon?
Depends... as long as I'm enjoyin' myself it's hard to put a date on it.
Figure... oh... I don't know... 3, maybe 4 months.
Ain't got much else to do when the weather gets too hot for loggin' in Iowa.
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"x", as I remember from High School Algebra is a variable. He was trying to solve for it...
I only remembered this from helping my granddaughter with her homework.
Well... X is a math thing... If your gonna hang out, try to at least keep up. We're not expecting much, but if you have to explain a joke its just not funny.
Anyway that was a long ****ing drive...
Its dog hair and not much of its marketable, hack and burn about half of it, 1 maybe, big, maybe 2 logs in 1/10 of the trees
Anyway that was a long ****ing drive...
Its dog hair and not much of its marketable, hack and burn about half of it, 1 maybe, big, maybe 2 logs in 1/10 of the trees
?? pass on it then if it's like hair on a dogs back! probably spend more time picking your self up off the ground or untangling from under growth ... sounds like an accident waiting.....
yup... not much undergrowth and ded flat... but still lots of little whips. What he needs is a feller buncher and a Cat.
Thats what it sounded like if the height was accurate? You get a 2.5 ft leader a year here aprox. So that puts the stand at about 40 year. A commercial thinging may be done at around 45 years and an 80-100 year rotation. That doesn't sound ready for nothing.
Thats why I was hesitant to give a personal estimation. I know those smaller trees with full crowns can take forever to limb. (Ref. Non salvage experience )
Big trees are not so bad for the specs I deal with. Highlead we'll limb a few spikes for the tape, daylighting, just fall towards a new spur road and walk away. Heli, its three sides. but most of the volume doesn't have a live crown either . Many specs will not be smaller than 15 " Dia unless its smaller cedars that we'll limb out one length to 8" For poles.so its mainly faster than juvenile trees with no crown competition.
Thats why I was hesitant to give a personal estimation. I know those smaller trees with full crowns can take forever to limb. (Ref. Non salvage experience )
Big trees are not so bad for the specs I deal with. Highlead we'll limb a few spikes for the tape, daylighting, just fall towards a new spur road and walk away. Heli, its three sides. but most of the volume doesn't have a live crown either . Many specs will not be smaller than 15 " Dia unless its smaller cedars that we'll limb out one length to 8" For poles.so its mainly faster than juvenile trees with no crown competition.
treeslayer2003
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thats what i figured..........another one looking for cheap labor.
I am probably dumb enough to do it... but I told the guy there wasn't much there... he got upset and said I Wasn't Right For the Job...
**** em Let em loose money.
**** em Let em loose money.
KiwiBro
Mill 'em, nails be damned.
and never thanked you for the time and money you spent getting there and back to give him your honest opinion? Good riddance.
Meh skagit topia and Whatcom is some pretty country to drive through... that and Bellingham is a college town with lots a cuties to oggle.
Yup, another would-be land and timber baron who asks for your advice and then argues with it. They don't want advice, they want you to validate some screwball idea that they already have.
The fact that what they want is unrealistic, unprofitable, probably illegal and most definitely dumb is beside the point. If you can't or won't do it you're "not the man for the job".
I never lost a dime on a job I didn't do.
Funny thing, as I drove away from it those words where floating through my head...
He actually had permits for it, crazy I know, and he may even have been the legal owner. Still a dumbass though.
Wants to use an off road fork lift for skidding... didn't mention that part... was being nice... probably thought the stumps would be ground level and the brush would magically disappear like cotton candy in the rain...
He actually had permits for it, crazy I know, and he may even have been the legal owner. Still a dumbass though.
Wants to use an off road fork lift for skidding... didn't mention that part... was being nice... probably thought the stumps would be ground level and the brush would magically disappear like cotton candy in the rain...
like I stated in an earlier post, lucky for you! your not tangled in his junk .......... ? forklift hey!! that's a good one. lol
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
I'd be doing on shares. If it's good timber 50% for you and 50% for the land owner. If you do the marketing you hold the check. If the would be timber baron doesn't want to go for it then I'd walk.
Maybe you could get a ballpark price for the timber while it's still on the stump.
Maybe you could get a ballpark price for the timber while it's still on the stump.
Ball park I'd say 8 loads... maybe and maybe a total of 8k all said and done...
1 in 15 of them trees was marketable, and only just... one 30-36' log barely to dia spec... so 30 logs to a load ish... And the scaler would be cursing my existence and gyppos in general the rest of the day. Not to mention the self loader jockey questioning my sanity...
1 in 15 of them trees was marketable, and only just... one 30-36' log barely to dia spec... so 30 logs to a load ish... And the scaler would be cursing my existence and gyppos in general the rest of the day. Not to mention the self loader jockey questioning my sanity...
Skeans
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Sounds like it needs a tight thinning and came back through in about 5 to 10 for a re thin, but from sounds of it I sure wouldn't do it even running ctl equipment down here. I'd talk the land owner into a light precommercial thin since they left it so tight.
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