562xp dead after 1hr - what should I expect?

[svk]

Very..very lean. Id at least tune it...

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It is either getting a MM/TA right away or ported so either way it will be tuned properly!!!!

 

[Fatherwheels]

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I was never a fan of Amsoil, felt like they were snake oil sellers. But then one of my customers brought me a Vanguard Vtwin that showed 2100 hours on the clock...one of his employees had changed the oil for him and forgot to tighten the drain. He had made a couple passes before he saw the oil on the grass and shut it down. It had always had Amsoil in it. He asked me to break it down and see what was salvageable. He noted where it was shut down there was no oil on the ground.

I got into it and the rings were middle of spec, there was skirt scuffing but not alot, bores were fine...Vanguards had very hard liners. Mains and rods had normal signs of use and wear but no smearing. I put a new set of rings in it because i was there and new seals...sent it back out. Since then i became an Amsoil retailer and use it in my personal vehicles for all the fluids. Is it the best oil? I don't know..but i like that for the most part they stick with a good product and not trying to use fancy words and gimmicks like "advanced platinum nano protection"[emoji23]...

That said, i don't push the stuff on people but its wayy cheaper to get if you are a dealer or retailer.

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Are they a Four stroke engine.

 

[Fatherwheels]

If you know you have fresh fuel with the right amount of oil I wouldn’t be so quick to take their “good deal” on another saw.
They owe you a rebuild or a new saw on their dime.
They have been putting out defective saws for years. Whether it be bad carburetors (what are we on the 4th or 5th generation on the 562?) or bad transfer cover seals on the 1st gen 550xp, Husky has been throwing their client base under the bus for years.
They make great running saws, when they are right, for sure, but the defects and poor customer service after the sale is ruining the company.

Yep, and people still keep defending them, but it’s possible to sell any crap in this generation,
years ago your product spoke for its self, it said something about you, just look at how many
of the older designed and built products are still going decades later.
Its just a race to grab your cash now, the bean crunchers couldn’t give a dam, it’s a war between
them making the most money or making a good product, Husqvarna lost a lot of rounds, and are only just
taking back ground with their latest saws, the 562, there are many better saws in that class, I don’t think
you could take a bigger gamble than buying the 562, it can’t be fixed, too many design flaws.

 

[RED-85-Z51]

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Are they a Four stroke engine.

Yes. Made in Japan for Briggs for many years, one of my favorite engines to run and least favorite to repair. As i recall this one was on a Simplicity Citation Z

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[Fatherwheels]

Has the OP any pictures of the Cylinder and piston yet.

 

[RED-85-Z51]

Yep, and people still keep defending them, but it’s possible to sell any crap in this generation,
years ago your product spoke for its self, it said something about you, just look at how many
of the older designed and built products are still going decades later.
Its just a race to grab your cash now, the bean crunchers couldn’t give a dam, it’s a war between
them making the most money or making a good product, Husqvarna lost a lot of rounds, and are only just
taking back ground with their latest saws, the 562, there are many better saws in that class, I don’t think
you could take a bigger gamble than buying the 562, it can’t be fixed, too many design flaws.

I love GM but...GM hasn't made a truck worth a crap since about 2005. The trans are junk, the engines dont last, electronics fail, sheet metal is paper thin. I used to defend them out of loyalty...but not anymore.

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[Fatherwheels]

Yes. Made in Japan for Briggs for many years, one of my favorite engines to run and least favorite to repair. As i recall this one was on a Simplicity Citation Z

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They were in a lot of commercial products here, like welders and generators,
never heard of them being repaired here, serviced and even overhauled after
huge hours that other engines could never attain.

 

[Fatherwheels]

I love GM but...GM hasn't made a truck worth a crap since about 2005. The trans are junk, the engines dont last, electronics fail, sheet metal is paper thin. I used to defend them out of loyalty...but not anymore.

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Sad to hear, we have old listers and petters diesels here, made 70 years ago in the UK,
they were sent to every corner of the world to work in the harshest of conditions, now that
was engineering and manufacturing done the right way, throw away products make way
more money, so why would we expect anything less from the bean counters, and people
wonder why we have energy crisis and global warming, roasting the same goose over and over.

 

[Jed1124]

I am in no way disagreeing with what you said about their issues but despite all of that, they seem to being selling pretty well. Dolmar put the screws to their dealers and forced out all of the smaller folks from their already meager dealer network. Echo has almost no dealer exposure. Mom and pop Stihl shops are getting fewer and further between and good luck buying a Stihl from a JD dealer. But you can get a Husky from just about anywhere now.

They sell well because they run so damn well and have a deserved following, myself included.
My particular annoyance with them is primarily directed at the 550 and 562’s.
Husky new and has known they have been problematic for years, hence the mark 2 saws.
They refuse to stand behind saws like the OP’s, and will not stand behind a product that hard working people spend a lot of money on.
Then there is the added frustration of people like myself, in an industry where time is money, when it’s 95 degrees outside and your trying to get the damn thing to start while chunking down the last spare of the day.
Many a 5 series husky saw has been known to grow wings, because you know when you bring it back to the dealer you are going to be told you ran bad gas or didn’t get the “hot start” procedure right.
It’s all just very frustrating. I hope the their new saws like the 572 and others to come fair better. In the mean time plenty of folks that have been burned will refuse to be burned again.

 

[Andyshine77]

No doubt the 550 and 562 were a disaster from day one. Husqvarna could/should have done better dealing with those models, from design to support.

 

[Lionsfan]

LOTS of 05' and newer Chevy trucks running around Northern Michigan with over 300,000 miles on them and never been touched besides tires and brakes. Same arguement can be made for every other brand on the road.

 

[RED-85-Z51]

LOTS of 05' and newer Chevy trucks running around Northern Michigan with over 300,000 miles on them and never been touched besides tires and brakes. Same arguement can be made for every other brand on the road.

Oh no doubt. Its just hard to defend a 2014 that does little more than pull a tandem with a Z mower on it, 188k miles and its on its 2nd engine and i kid you not..7th trans. He will be driving along and out of nowhere it starts to bang gears and it breaks the bell housing or a shaft. GM replaced 3 under warranty and had no explanation.


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[CentaurG2]

No doubt the 550 and 562 were a disaster from day one. Husqvarna could/should have done better dealing with those models, from design to support.

That’s a pretty broad statement. I own both of those saw and used them commercially. Neither has ever let me down and my luck just plain stinks. Just saying.

 

[CentaurG2]

I love GM but...GM hasn't made a truck worth a crap since about 2005. The trans are junk, the engines dont last, electronics fail, sheet metal is paper thin. I used to defend them out of loyalty...but not anymore.

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Trust me. Chevy trucks from 2005 were loaded with problems. Ask me how I know.

 

[holeycow]

And the next guy's 562's or 550's don't last more than a day or two..weird.

I saw 3 out of 4 brand-new 562's burn up in the hands of two experienced professionals within two days soon after the saws hit the market. They were told not covered under warranty. I'm not sure the resolution ever got better. I lost a lot of respect for husky with the "5" series of saws..

I know guys that have bought them with severe trepidation knowing this to be the case.

They like the handling and power characteristics so much that they are willing to take a chance.

 

[Fatherwheels]

No doubt the 550 and 562 were a disaster from day one. Husqvarna could/should have done better dealing with those models, from design to support.

The new 550 seems a much more solid saw, as does the 572, no talk of starting issues or cooling problems with
them, so yes, the older 550 and the 562 were very troublesome, people aren’t coming on complaining about
them for no reason, and then there are the multitudes who don’t be on forums, like my neighbours who were
pulling their hair out with frustration because Husqvarna sung the usual oil not right song, these were pros
that had every reason to keep their saws right, else they couldn’t work.

I am not bashing a brand, I had a new 372, and a Jred 2153, great saws, but that junk of a 550 and 562
deserves the rep they got, they earned it, and here we are in a 562 thread once again, no surprise here.

I feel sorry for the OP, he was a victim of the Husqvarna marketing machine,
Husqvarna should have pulled those saws and re-Introduced the old saws that
worked instead of flogging a dead horse, shame on them.

 

[Justsaws]

No doubt the 550 and 562 were a disaster from day one. Husqvarna could/should have done better dealing with those models, from design to support.

Yep, they have been and still are a disappointment. If a person gets a good one it is a good one, if not it is a money/time pit of hobby in of itself, way too many bad ones, air leaks, fuel, electrics, DOAs. All dealers should be vac and pressure testing any warranty claim on these saws as soon as they are brought in.

Stihl took a beating around here with the early 391s, 362s and 661s, the difference was support and time, fairly solid saws now.

StVenant, hope it gets resolved and you can get back to work. Having new equipment sit at a dealer is not why new equipment is purchased. Good luck.

 

[Andyshine77]

That’s a pretty broad statement. I own both of those saw and used them commercially. Neither has ever let me down and my luck just plain stinks. Just saying.

It is, yet I wholeheartedly stand behind my statement. The first generation 550 and the 562 were garbage in my book. That's my opinion based on some experience, for what ever that is worth. Again when running they're sweet saws, however beside the QC problems, just looking these saws over it's clear not only was the design poor, but the Penny Pinchers got their hands involved. Just ran my 562 today it was nice weather didn't miss a beat, this is after heat shielding, carb reprogram, MM, decomposition plug and a new short block because of factory installed crank seal leak. The few 550's I've had to go through were even worse, each one had a QC issue, transfer covers all leaked, and intake boots were installed improperly, and they all would stumble off idle. The 550 went through what five different carved in three or four years. Yes they were that bad, sorry but it's the truth I my eyes. I have not had a 550 mk-II yet but so far you here nothing but good, and my 572 has been flawless.

Look all manufacturers have their problems especially with new models, how you handle it that matters, husqvarna's did not handle it correctly.

 

[holeycow]

Too bad the truth comes out long after the fact.

What are the early ms362 issues? I have a first-year model (2011?), still with very low hours. It's a beautiful saw for me so far. Smoooth, powerful, overcomplicated but very nicely made, and a bit bulky, but not bad. I ran it the other day and it just rips! Nice saw, but what should I be watching out for, besides the dry-ish clutch bearing?

I tune it a bit rich and run somewhere near 40:1, btw

 

[Andyshine77]

Too bad the truth comes out long after the fact.

What are the early ms362 issues? I have a first-year model (2011?), still with very low hours. It's a beautiful saw for me so far. Smoooth, powerful, overcomplicated but very nicely made, and a bit bulky, but not bad. I ran it the other day and it just rips! Nice saw, but what should I be watching out for, besides the dry-ish clutch bearing?

I tune it a bit rich and run somewhere near 40:1, btw

Only issue I know of is the air filter wasn't the best, some complained about power, the one I had was every bit as strong as my 562.