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I honeslty mean no disrespect to anyone. Seein how I know little to nothin about saws Im just gonna hush before I get in over my head.
Its real hard to say just listing and watching videos but it "sounds" like both 066's are being loaded about the same (good job of running them) you can here them both pull down in the power band about the same.
I'm curious what would happen if you do take the rakers down.
personally "I" think you make be going the wrong way. Try filing the chain back some and leave them where they are and try it on the 066.
I honeslty mean no disrespect to anyone. Seein how I know little to nothin about saws Im just gonna hush before I get in over my head.
I would certainly love to visit Australia sometime though. That is definetly some of the prettiest country in the world.
Damn right, but we aren't silly enough to think there isn't equally or better beaut places around the world. You guy's do alright over there yourselves. One place I'd like to visit for sure.
I honeslty mean no disrespect to anyone. Seein how I know little to nothin about saws Im just gonna hush before I get in over my head.
We are pretty thick skinned down here its going to take a lot to upset most of us.
Thats why you are here on AS to read and lern a little as ya go,its all good.
Its real hard to say just listing and watching videos but it "sounds" like both 066's are being loaded about the same (good job of running them) you can here them both pull down in the power band about the same.
I'm curious what would happen if you do take the rakers down.
personally "I" think you make be going the wrong way. Try filing the chain back some and leave them where they are and try it on the 066.
No matter how good somebody mods a 660 it ain't gonna fill a 28 odd cc torque gap!
I here what you are saying cc s are everything,i put the 880 in there for my own interest.I suppose deep down i am trying to find out if i can live without it or not,but i have a soft spot in my hard for it,dont know why,its heavy,hard to handle,likes a drink but gee it sounds good but.
I would love to send it to Brad,get it modded and throw away that rev limitter,know that would be a weapond.![]()
Unless Im way off on my math then you have a gain of 2.27% from stock vs. modded on your 660. The times i got were as follows
Stock 9.60 & 8.13
Snelleriized 9.34 & 7.78
Thats not much in the way of gains at all. Am I missing something here? Shouldnt a modded saw get atleast about 15% more?
Yep, that's the route I would take. If you did take the rackers down which may be fine for softwood, you may find it too much in hardwood.
I would certainly love to visit Australia sometime though. That is definetly some of the prettiest country in the world.
If ya go over to the us Matt can we organise a shipping container full of saws and stuff.:msp_thumbsup:
So let me get this rite, Your saying that a Modded saw has more torque" ("should" have I agree).
But if your trying to convince me that a modded saw wont show its power only in BIG wood I say BS!!!!! I dont care what you have ben feed !! power is power no matter what size or kind of wood when the "same peace" is used for comparison .
Its quite simple really, if the modded saw has more power you should be able to load the saw harder (push) making it cut faster not pulling out of the powerband as quick, thats what torque is all about.... its all about "holding RPM's in the cut".
The Video that stihlman441 posted he did a great job of running the saws both saws came off there power bands (pulled down) so how can we say it takes bigger wood to load the modded saw ?
I'm not by any means discrediting anyone here but I havent spent the last 10 years figuring out how to make there saws and chains cut faster to be BS'ed about small wood VS big wood ... wood is wood as long as all is "equal", I dont see how it could have been anymore equal in stihlman441 video.
"IMO" the only way to make that modded saw cut faster is to file the chain back so the saw stays at its peak RPM, with the narrower band use the higher RPM to make the gains.
Drop in while you're hereLike Al said, if I do visit any overseas countries the US will be first on my list.
AHHHHHHHEEEEEEEMMMMMMMMM Cough, Cough, Cough!!!!
Of course it goes without saying Will, we'd pop over the border.
Just make sure the fridge is full and the boat fueled!
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The MS660 is back together and running. Throttle response is extremely snappy. Max RPMs are 14,300. I have it tuned to about 13,900-14,000.
Snellerized 660
Muf mod dual port
Woods ported,cylinder machined lowered
Popup piston
8 pin rim
25'' bar
Fuel BP Ultimate 98 Mobile 1 T2 @40;1
w/o 13800 rpm
Give her a few more RPMs. Also use the exact same bar and chain next time. You can clearly hear the modded 660 is turning more RPMs in the cut. Why the times don't show more difference is odd.
It looks as if he loaded the saws about the same. As others have said the modded saw should take more load and hold the same RPM. Maybe its a case of some chains can only cut so fast, until you do something about it.