Rftreeman
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my wife told me when I hit 50 she was trading me in on two 25 year old guys....
Age discrimination?,
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Ahhh, nonsense. We are also the most sought after, the most relied upon. Except in certain niches, like city government in Kansas City. If you ain't black, and you work for the city, then you were elected.
They have several reverse discrimination suits pending right now.
Shaun Bowler
ArboristSite Operative
I think age discrimination is BS.
But when I first stared out, (1977) when I worked with someone over 30 I was looking at them funny. I thought I did more than them.
When I started treework I still remembered what my Father drilled into me,
"show up, work hard, and you will go far in life."
I did that, and have prospered. (relatively)
"Back in the day" a lot of us had a different work ethic than what prevails now.
WE did it when we started out in this career, and it will be challenging to do it again.
Isn't' that why we stay?
I am, and consider myself a "walk on" in any tree care enviorment.
However, once being young, I failed to see the value in some of the people ten years older than me.
So keep at it all you AARP members!
I got my first AARP junk mail two weeks ago.
How did they find me?
But when I first stared out, (1977) when I worked with someone over 30 I was looking at them funny. I thought I did more than them.
When I started treework I still remembered what my Father drilled into me,
"show up, work hard, and you will go far in life."
I did that, and have prospered. (relatively)
"Back in the day" a lot of us had a different work ethic than what prevails now.
WE did it when we started out in this career, and it will be challenging to do it again.
Isn't' that why we stay?
I am, and consider myself a "walk on" in any tree care enviorment.
However, once being young, I failed to see the value in some of the people ten years older than me.
So keep at it all you AARP members!
I got my first AARP junk mail two weeks ago.
How did they find me?
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Yup ya old fart lol it is down hill from there sorry but 47 comes in April so I do know
tree md
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Yup ya old fart lol it is down hill from there sorry but 47 comes in April so I do know
LOL. I'm still 19 in my head!
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Yeah I still do things like a kid for now but feel it more each year but it is better than the alternative lol.
tree md
Addicted to ArboristSite
It's like my girl told me: Use it or lose it! 
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
It's like my girl told me: Use it or lose it!
Ohhhhh that is already gone lol
tree md
Addicted to ArboristSite
Well this 19 year old lesbian trapped in a 41 YO man's body is hitting the sack. Bowhunting in the AM.
ForTheArborist
Addicted to ArboristSite
If being an all around pro is all that is wrong with you, start up your own outfit. Start off from small pickings, and see how far you can run it.
You're either going to be stressing about whether "they" are going to keep picking you for the team, or you're going start picking your own team.
It's the next level. You've worked all the other positions in the business. Now learn the wheel as the skipper.
You can earn money as a 1-3 man crew easily... just as much as you earn with the krew you're on now.
...How did they find me?
[AARP]
As soon as they think that you are anywhere close to 50, they try to sign you up. Then they sell you overpriced insurance, take your contributions for exercising your political will, but they pursue other things with it.
I disapprove of their dirty tricks and agenda, and the fact that they claim all kinds of folks as members, even when they aren't. They have me on a list as a member, and I never told them I wanted on any list that they own.
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ageniusforhire
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age discrimination
the older guys have more trouble finding a job, in my experience. Till word gets around town that you can outwork and outclimb the youngsters.I just realized,when i was a kid, wwII was 20 yrs ago,when i was in cub scouts,the vietnam war was last week.LOL,I guess my 31 yr old irish kajun redhead wife keeps me young. Or else its the adrenalyn rushes when things go wrong. I dont care how old you are, you havnt lived untill the tail of your climbing line gets run through a chipper with you on the other end,about 40ft down from your tie in spot while you are not lanyarded in to the tree. what a ride when the rope finally got cut. I am 46 and still love to climb, make it look easier every day,and no trips to the hospital in 22 yrs of climbing.Of course i have pissed off a few tree company owners when i wouldnt climb a dead tree. You should see the look on there face when i tell them if they want that dead one down to find a crane or a crackhead to do it with.lol.Not to knock crackhead climbers mind you. some of the fastest climbers i have met are crackheads. Too fast to use lanyards, tie in to the same leader theyre roping limbs down from,etc. good to get things down fast.But rough on the nerves and insurance.I wont hire them, but some co. owners will because its all about the speed to them.Personally, i am safe to the point of agravation. I think i am the only climber i know who keeps his climbing line on when blocking down a log, as well as the lanyard. hey, who wants to mess with tying in and setting your knot after a chainsaw cuts you...never needed to, but i always stay ready to burn down in a hurry if needed.
the older guys have more trouble finding a job, in my experience. Till word gets around town that you can outwork and outclimb the youngsters.I just realized,when i was a kid, wwII was 20 yrs ago,when i was in cub scouts,the vietnam war was last week.LOL,I guess my 31 yr old irish kajun redhead wife keeps me young. Or else its the adrenalyn rushes when things go wrong. I dont care how old you are, you havnt lived untill the tail of your climbing line gets run through a chipper with you on the other end,about 40ft down from your tie in spot while you are not lanyarded in to the tree. what a ride when the rope finally got cut. I am 46 and still love to climb, make it look easier every day,and no trips to the hospital in 22 yrs of climbing.Of course i have pissed off a few tree company owners when i wouldnt climb a dead tree. You should see the look on there face when i tell them if they want that dead one down to find a crane or a crackhead to do it with.lol.Not to knock crackhead climbers mind you. some of the fastest climbers i have met are crackheads. Too fast to use lanyards, tie in to the same leader theyre roping limbs down from,etc. good to get things down fast.But rough on the nerves and insurance.I wont hire them, but some co. owners will because its all about the speed to them.Personally, i am safe to the point of agravation. I think i am the only climber i know who keeps his climbing line on when blocking down a log, as well as the lanyard. hey, who wants to mess with tying in and setting your knot after a chainsaw cuts you...never needed to, but i always stay ready to burn down in a hurry if needed.
4`E=ageniusforhire;1789505]the older guys have more trouble finding a job, in my experience. Till word gets around town that you can outwork and outclimb the youngsters.I just realized,when i was a kid, wwII was 20 yrs ago,when i was in cub scouts,the vietnam war was last week.LOL,I guess my 31 yr old irish kajun redhead wife keeps me young. Or else its the adrenalyn rushes when things go wrong. I dont care how old you are, you havnt lived untill the tail of your climbing line gets run through a chipper with you on the other end,about 40ft down from your tie in spot while you are not lanyarded in to the tree. what a ride when the rope finally got cut. I am 46 and still love to climb, make it look easier every day,and no trips to the hospital in 22 yrs of climbing.Of course i have pissed off a few tree company owners when i wouldnt climb a dead tree. You should see the look on there face when i tell them if they want that dead one down to find a crane or a crackhead to do it with.lol.Not to knock crackhead climbers mind you. some of the fastest climbers i have met are crackheads. Too fast to use lanyards, tie in to the same leader theyre roping limbs down from,etc. good to get things down fast.But rough on the nerves and insurance.I wont hire them, but some co. owners will because its all about the speed to them.Personally, i am safe to the point of agravation. I think i am the only climber i know who keeps his climbing line on when blocking down a log, as well as the lanyard. hey, who wants to mess with tying in and setting your knot after a chainsaw cuts you...never needed to, but i always stay ready to burn down in a hurry if needed.[/QUOTE]
Thats quite a post there G for hire...its gonna take some time to process that one. lol.
I keep the one crackhead splitting on the wood pile sometimes is all... of course he's actually a good dude though...not the average crackhead I assure you!
Keep away from the crack though! I hear its bad stuff.
Thats quite a post there G for hire...its gonna take some time to process that one. lol.
I keep the one crackhead splitting on the wood pile sometimes is all... of course he's actually a good dude though...not the average crackhead I assure you!
Keep away from the crack though! I hear its bad stuff.
Shaun Bowler
ArboristSite Operative
Hey Ageniusforhire..
I do the same thing with my climbing line.
Where I work we call it "Chunking"
I do the same thing with my climbing line.
Where I work we call it "Chunking"
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Hmmm interesting someone saying 22 years experiance and not climbed a dead tree
Sorry Charlie but I climb dead trees regular and am no crackhead either.
Hmmm interesting someone saying 22 years experiance and not climbed a dead tree
Read the post again; he did not say "every" or "any", just "a tree". But yeah some old snags are safer than some lush green trees.
Glad I'm not job hunting; almost 60 and like my freedom.
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ageniusforhire
Guest
Dead trees
I will climb some dead ones, but i am very picky about which ones. The first one a boss wanted me to do was a 40 ft wild cherry beanpole that had already lost all the limbs. He told me just climb it, it's ok and block it down because of the landscaping. Well as soon as he left, i climbed the live tree next to it and came in from about 20 ft above it. I gently swung over and landed on the log, and it snapped at the base before i had a tag line on it.I held on for a few seconds,redirecting it away from the fountain,then the tree and i parted ways. It to the ground and me back to my safe tree.The next one i used a throwball to take apart from the ground. Dead trees kill climbers,and thats why i made the crackhead comment. They know they gotta quit crack,and a bad fall is the only thing that will get them to stop and dry out awhile, so they dont care anymore. Dont go under them while theyre climbing either.
I will climb some dead ones, but i am very picky about which ones. The first one a boss wanted me to do was a 40 ft wild cherry beanpole that had already lost all the limbs. He told me just climb it, it's ok and block it down because of the landscaping. Well as soon as he left, i climbed the live tree next to it and came in from about 20 ft above it. I gently swung over and landed on the log, and it snapped at the base before i had a tag line on it.I held on for a few seconds,redirecting it away from the fountain,then the tree and i parted ways. It to the ground and me back to my safe tree.The next one i used a throwball to take apart from the ground. Dead trees kill climbers,and thats why i made the crackhead comment. They know they gotta quit crack,and a bad fall is the only thing that will get them to stop and dry out awhile, so they dont care anymore. Dont go under them while theyre climbing either.
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ageniusforhire
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someone tried to im me here a sec ago, try again, my security was too high to let it come in.
someone tried to im me here a sec ago, try again, my security was too high to let it come in.
Where did I see this before.:monkey:
