Bowtie
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Is it true the oiler on the 361 was a little lacking? Just a question.
Anyone seeing failures with MS 361
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Not on mine.
SawTroll
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I could be wrong, but I think the deficiencies of the 361 oiler are more perceived than real. Saws used to put out a lot more oil than they do now. Today's saws don't need as much oil. If you're not burning up your bar and chain, you've got plenty of oil. Never the less, it's nice that a solution has been found with the 460 oiler mods for those that do want more oil.
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chad3
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460 Ho
Did the mod, it turns it into a gusher at full tilt. Don't put it all the way up, search and you will find a printout on it, but start at what was full (about 1/2 to 3/4, at the E) and go up a bit till you find your happy place. I did this more because I was cutting plenty of hard oak and the bar and chain were getting a bit brown. Bad part was at full the oil and chips were making a mess inside the cover.
Did the mod, it turns it into a gusher at full tilt. Don't put it all the way up, search and you will find a printout on it, but start at what was full (about 1/2 to 3/4, at the E) and go up a bit till you find your happy place. I did this more because I was cutting plenty of hard oak and the bar and chain were getting a bit brown. Bad part was at full the oil and chips were making a mess inside the cover.
I think the 361 is a fine saw, but the oiler and filter are sub par if you ask me, and at $600 it's a bit over priced for what it is as well.
Anyway it sounds like that saw has been to to hell and back, I wouldn't even consider saying that saw had failed, it was just run to death.
Anyway it sounds like that saw has been to to hell and back, I wouldn't even consider saying that saw had failed, it was just run to death.
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The 361 is one of the finest saws Stihl makes, and we rarely get the opportunity to work on one here, because they are so well built. Anybody who is getting 14 months out of a saw with little or no maintenance should be grinning from ear to ear. It is easy to justify $600 for that kind of performance.
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boilerhouse47
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air filter
I'm sorry folks, I just couldn't stay quite any longer. I don't post very often, but I do come to this site a lot to read and learn how to take care of my saws. It seems to me that when the MS361 came out all the Husky lovin' Stihl bashers said that it was the best thing that Stihl has ever done when they "COPIED" the HUSKY AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM. I owned a MS290 (didn't know it was a BAD saw until I found this site) and just considered cleaning the air filter a part of taking care of it. When I started to use the MS361 the thing that impressed me the most was the improvement to the air filtration system.
Yes I'm no pro, I just cut wood to heat my home and don't run my saw for hours on end, but I know something good when I see it. I have never run or owned a Husky, simply because of no dealer nearby, so I cann't say if the Husky system is better or not. I just have a hard time with some people saying one thing in one thread then saying the exact opposite in the next.
I'm not trying to bash any saw of any brand, I'm just trying to learn something, and you're confusing the #$it out of me.
If I ruffled any feathers, just face into the wind and they'll smooth out.
Carl
I'm sorry folks, I just couldn't stay quite any longer. I don't post very often, but I do come to this site a lot to read and learn how to take care of my saws. It seems to me that when the MS361 came out all the Husky lovin' Stihl bashers said that it was the best thing that Stihl has ever done when they "COPIED" the HUSKY AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM. I owned a MS290 (didn't know it was a BAD saw until I found this site) and just considered cleaning the air filter a part of taking care of it. When I started to use the MS361 the thing that impressed me the most was the improvement to the air filtration system.
Yes I'm no pro, I just cut wood to heat my home and don't run my saw for hours on end, but I know something good when I see it. I have never run or owned a Husky, simply because of no dealer nearby, so I cann't say if the Husky system is better or not. I just have a hard time with some people saying one thing in one thread then saying the exact opposite in the next.
I'm not trying to bash any saw of any brand, I'm just trying to learn something, and you're confusing the #$it out of me.
If I ruffled any feathers, just face into the wind and they'll smooth out.
Carl
Like I said the 361 is a fine saw, and I'll admit it will probably last longer than a Hysky of the same size, but like most things, it's not perfect.
Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
I'm sorry folks, I just couldn't stay quite any longer. I don't post very often, but I do come to this site a lot to read and learn how to take care of my saws. It seems to me that when the MS361 came out all the Husky lovin' Stihl bashers said that it was the best thing that Stihl has ever done when they "COPIED" the HUSKY AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM. I owned a MS290 (didn't know it was a BAD saw until I found this site) and just considered cleaning the air filter a part of taking care of it. When I started to use the MS361 the thing that impressed me the most was the improvement to the air filtration system.
Yes I'm no pro, I just cut wood to heat my home and don't run my saw for hours on end, but I know something good when I see it. I have never run or owned a Husky, simply because of no dealer nearby, so I cann't say if the Husky system is better or not. I just have a hard time with some people saying one thing in one thread then saying the exact opposite in the next.
I'm not trying to bash any saw of any brand, I'm just trying to learn something, and you're confusing the #$it out of me.
If I ruffled any feathers, just face into the wind and they'll smooth out.
Carl
Good post, but the system used on 361 has nothing to do with the air system used on huskys.. it's the "same" system (passive) as the 029 - just a better design.
Stihl Ms 361 Testimony
+1, QFT!
The Stihl MS 361 is the best chainsaw I have ever run in my 30 years of experience cutting all sorts of firewood and all sizes of trees. No, I am not a logger or earn my living as a lumberjack, but this saw is an engineering marvel. If I take care of it as well as I take care of all my saws, it will outlast me.
+1, QFT!
The Stihl MS 361 is the best chainsaw I have ever run in my 30 years of experience cutting all sorts of firewood and all sizes of trees. No, I am not a logger or earn my living as a lumberjack, but this saw is an engineering marvel. If I take care of it as well as I take care of all my saws, it will outlast me.
bcorradi
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I'm sorry folks, I just couldn't stay quite any longer. I don't post very often, but I do come to this site a lot to read and learn how to take care of my saws. It seems to me that when the MS361 came out all the Husky lovin' Stihl bashers said that it was the best thing that Stihl has ever done when they "COPIED" the HUSKY AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM. I owned a MS290 (didn't know it was a BAD saw until I found this site) and just considered cleaning the air filter a part of taking care of it. When I started to use the MS361 the thing that impressed me the most was the improvement to the air filtration system.
Yes I'm no pro, I just cut wood to heat my home and don't run my saw for hours on end, but I know something good when I see it. I have never run or owned a Husky, simply because of no dealer nearby, so I cann't say if the Husky system is better or not. I just have a hard time with some people saying one thing in one thread then saying the exact opposite in the next.
I'm not trying to bash any saw of any brand, I'm just trying to learn something, and you're confusing the #$it out of me.
If I ruffled any feathers, just face into the wind and they'll smooth out.
Carl
LOL I can totally understand your confusion. Speaking of that old, outdated, heavy, bad air filtrating, slow, plasticy, pig of an 029...what did you end up doing with it?
boilerhouse47
ArboristSite Operative
Bcorradi, it was a MS290, and I traded it in on my MS361. It was a good saw for what I used it for, I just read to many posts about BIGGER, BADDER and BETTER on this forum and jumped into the 361. No regrets yet. From what everyone says this saw should last me my life time if I take care of it.
Carl
Carl
bcorradi
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Ohh ok Carl. Do you live by Williamsport? I know a guy who owns a stihl shop there.
ciscoguy01
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Hmmm
Yep, I'm calling BS dudes. With the type of abuse that's described NO SAW would stand up to that. I can't believe it lasted that long actually... If all of the things were done that was said I don't even believe we have anything to talk about here... It's as silly as asking if we're seeing failures running straight gas in saws...
Yep, I'm calling BS dudes. With the type of abuse that's described NO SAW would stand up to that. I can't believe it lasted that long actually... If all of the things were done that was said I don't even believe we have anything to talk about here... It's as silly as asking if we're seeing failures running straight gas in saws...
bcorradi
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You must not have read Red's thread about the echos...they come out unscathed with straight gas.It's as silly as asking if we're seeing failures running straight gas in saws...
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windthrown
361 Junkie
Yah know, I do have one problem with my 361. I mean, it is the darndest thing. I do not understand it. It has me scratching my head here. That thing will just not walk on water. I tried several times, and it just sinks. It don't float! Talk about a dud saw. This saw ain't no Jesus saw, I'm 'a tellin' yah... :censored:
Well, and there is this other thing about the 361 too. The darn thing will just plain not run when there is no gas in it. I do not understand that. They are supposed to run and run and run and run, and all this talk about them on this site, I am telling you! It ain't true! They need gas to run! And they need oil mixed in the gas to boot, or they will seize up on yah! Beware! And they also need bar oil, or the bar and chain get real hot and start to smoke, see? I swear, this thing is complete TRASH! What the heck kind of saw does Stihl think they are trying to push down our throats here?
Dag nab it! This site said that these saws would walk on water and run great and beat all to heck and they don't! So you newbies on AS that do not have a 361 yet (you will, its only a metter of time), do not believe what these other fellers say about this 361 saw. It just ain't a perfect saw! No sirree Bob. They don't walk on water, and they need gas to run.
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Well, and there is this other thing about the 361 too. The darn thing will just plain not run when there is no gas in it. I do not understand that. They are supposed to run and run and run and run, and all this talk about them on this site, I am telling you! It ain't true! They need gas to run! And they need oil mixed in the gas to boot, or they will seize up on yah! Beware! And they also need bar oil, or the bar and chain get real hot and start to smoke, see? I swear, this thing is complete TRASH! What the heck kind of saw does Stihl think they are trying to push down our throats here?
Dag nab it! This site said that these saws would walk on water and run great and beat all to heck and they don't! So you newbies on AS that do not have a 361 yet (you will, its only a metter of time), do not believe what these other fellers say about this 361 saw. It just ain't a perfect saw! No sirree Bob. They don't walk on water, and they need gas to run.
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