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Backround!!!

I am the son of a reletivley successful tree biz owner. Pop's was 51 when he had me and i was raised on the tree site. We did work for several townships, citys, and even the great (haha)state of illinois. We did so much landclearing and highway widening projects that i never even relized that people climbed trees till i was about 13 and saw a smaller co. doing it. i graduated high school and went right to work for a man who had worked and recieved his training from my old man and then went out on his own. He turnd out to be a slight j@c#*zz but at least he could rip a tree apart at break neck speed. problem with this guy, how many of you seen the guy who would rather scream at the top of his lungs about how your doing it wrong rather than calmly tell you how he wants you to do it? By the way, my old man retired when i was in 7th grade so i never had any real training b4 the screamer. i left him after a year cuz he wouldnt let me do any climbing/wouldnt teach me anything, basically just wanted a $7hr brush dragger(hey this was 99 so 7 was better than the 5 micky d's was offering). Went to work for a Davey/Asplunld vet who was a total drunk. Paid way better. However was a whole new world of B-S to deal with. Boy, drunks are fun! I cant count how many calls i got on monday morning saying,"i had way too much last nite so were not working today". All i could think was why cant me and bri go out without you? we get more done when your not there. At least they tought me how to climb a little and proper trimming. went back to the screamer for one more year after that cuz the drunk was a firm believer that wheelbarrows and hand loading firewood length chunks were just as profitable as a real log cart and a prentice grapple. worked for J.B. the yell yell for the rest of 01 cuz now i knew a little sum-sumtin! i wasnt lil "b" boy no mo! at 19 i was runnin a crew but somehow screamy would show up right when things was good and make em bad again. after that ran my own from 02-05. What a change that was. Had never ran a whip-R-Chipper b4. was all we could afford. Call me crazy but i still love em to this day! theres just somtin bout watchin dat stuff dissapear so quick! slowly i was able to climb the ladder. then my partner pointed out to me that we wernt makin enough $. he had a couple o kids and another on the way. there goes my salesman and #cruncher. At this point all i am is a helluva good(decent)climber/bucket oper. i felt betrayed. so i went to the one guy that p-o-ed my salesmen the most. the guy that when everyone else was at $1500-1850, this guy was at 900-1250. i was still young and dumb enough to think he was that low for a real good reason. turns out he hires me cuz the aerial guy hes has a serious junk habit and has been "borrowing his saws" for "side jobs" too bad those saws never came back. wish i knew what pawn shop he went to. coulda got some nice deals. any way, i couldnt help but wonder why he would let this trash work for him. Found out soon enough. Most dangerous guy around. nobody that knew him would work with him. Some even aledge that his last boss died when the bucket broke cuz he got it caught on a limb the nite b4.All i got to say about that is maybe you shouldnt b running a 1966 strat-o-tower. any way ill let this go for now pick it up later for those who want more details. by the way , anyone north/northwest of chicago/south/southwest of milwaukee need any part time help. i can bring a bobcat mt52, a GRCS, +i own over 20 saws from a echo3000 n several ms200t's all the way up to a husky 3120. my favs the husky 372xp i got 4 of em but i like the 1 i got b4 the epa steped on there b*lls ... wow what a rant . obviously im lookin for a new job :popcorn::dizzy:
 
you guys ever like to make a small rats nest or crash pad? wont happen with this guy, he pulls everything away whether you want him to or not. a guy i asked about him before i worked with him said hes the best brush dragger that ever lived , but watch out! P.S. hes the nephew of the guy that died in the bucket
 
I'd love to have a lengthy post on this subject, but I'm short on time right now.

My first advice to you is to be brutally honest. Tell him you appreciate your pay, but you're feeling disrespected with his antics. If he has any sense at all and you're being forthright with your info and forwardness, maybe he'll realize he's going too far and make your life easier.

I'm sure he appreciates you, as per his pay to you, but doesn't realize how his antics affects you.

Take him out for a cold one and tell him what you think.

Best of luck buddy,

StihlRockin'

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Yep. Jokers don't usually want to be disliked, and they usually grew up being treated that way by friends and family. If that doesn't work, get really mad next time and let him know how disrespect in the workplace works to his disadvantage.

You shouldn't need to go postal to get the message across.
 
When I'm in the tree I make sure everyone knows to stand clear when my saw is running. I will put some limbs on the ground then wait till the guys get it cleaned up, drop a top and wait and let them limb it and drag it off before I start dropping big wood. It takes a little longer in the tree but I believe it's quicker for the overall job to let them clean up as I go. I don't bury them in wood. It's a biotch to try to clean up limbs with heavy wood on top of them not to mention that it can put tension on the limbs making the job more dangerous.

You have no idea how many times we tried to reason with my old boss. The guy would watch a show like America's toughest jobs when they had the loggers on there. The next day he went mad on a giant pine with 5 leads that were the size of a good size pine themselves. He came down from the bucket and said, you guys can't keep up. It's tough to work for a company where the Owner himself is the Foreman. Small companies like mine it's a necessity that I be there. Safety is our #1 priority. We have been going strong for 3 months now not one injury. Well, aside from the occasional scrape from brush running through the chipper, or someone chipping on the chippers drawside and they catch a log to the leg or scrapes on the neck.

But they learned there lesson real quick, 3 months and my groundmen are great. One of them was a greenhorn and he's rugged now. They call it the Saco Valley weight loss and bulk up program.

I pitty the average man that tries to tango with a tree worker
 
there is no reasoning with this loonie. he just giggles like a cartoon carachter. when i scream like a phyco because ive had enough he says, "are you mad at me?".
 
my ex brother in law was a 30 year asplund vet after my old man let him go and i see him every now and then n we talk horror stories and he always says the same thing this work is too dangerous to be ****in around and hes right.
 
there is no reasoning with this loonie. he just giggles like a cartoon carachter. when i scream like a phyco because ive had enough he says, "are you mad at me?".

don't even let him see it coming, as hard as you can, right in the side of his face , level and in front of the ear, the jaw hinge. don't matter which side.
 
If he keeps rolling up the windows and dropping bombs on you let him know what a real stink is, buy some coyote or fox piss from a trapping supply site and inject the piss in his window seals with a hypodermic needle, it'll be the gift that just keeps on giving, shoot some in his seat where his butt sits as well, people will wonder why he doesn't bathe.
 
dan, i appreciate it and its coming REALsoon! but im thinkin more along the lines of "industrial accident" than "assult charge" it woulda happend already but im 6'1" 160 and hes 5'9" 250 or more, me jus a lil guy! Branch in da head? Oops! sorry! Di**! And to mr springs , I really, really like that idea and will definatley be looking into that , extra thanx!!!:rock: Hey look! its my boss!:jester: By the way , the mexican calls him mongee wich is short for mongola : retard
 
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