Bandit 1590 autofeed problem??????

[jaystihl]

I just bought a 2003 Bandit 1590xp ( The guy said it was ready to work) and not knowing a lot about chippers yet , I believed him because everything seemed to work. Unfortunately after i bought it I realized the autofeed isnt working on big stuff. It will just keep pulling in the log and bog the engine down. Can anyone tell me where the autofeed solenoid is? Or can anyone tell me what to look for, or test???? Please help , spent alot of money already and cant afford a mechanic

 

[Del_]

You need to get the manual for the auto feed control module. Finding the solenoid should be a simple matter of following the hydraulic lines until you find electrical wires in the system. These modules do fail from the rough environment they are exposed to. Also the RPM settings need set.

 

[jaystihl]

I have calibrated the smartfeed gauge to hi and lo settings and have a manual but just cant find the darn solenoid. I found one at the front of the machine where the filter is but i was told most of them are in the back by feed wheel motors

 

[jaystihl]

The one up front looks more like a sensor

 

[Del_]

The one up front looks more like a sensor

I'm not sure why there would be a sensor. I believe it's all RPM controlled off of the tach.

I wish I could be of more help but I can only help you with general trouble shooting. I've not had an auto feed since 1999.

Hand in there. Someone will come along that can help.

 

[jaystihl]

Thanks for the input del. Do you not prefer autofeed??? Is it worth having? If you donthave it do you just use the forward and reverse bar and do it manually? Seems like it would be so much more efficient to just put a log in the autofeed with a loader and go get another one while its feeding through

 

[Del_]

Thanks for the input del. Do you not prefer autofeed??? Is it worth having? If you donthave it do you just use the forward and reverse bar and do it manually? Seems like it would be so much more efficient to just put a log in the autofeed with a loader and go get another one while its feeding through

Autofeed must be worth it as everybody seems to be using it. It sure makes sense. The early auto feeds had a lot of problems but hopefully they've been ironed out by now.

The only chipper I have these days is a 1996 Bandit 250xp that I bought new. It doesn't have auto feed but at times I wish it did. I don't chip big stuff as I usually cut it for firewood. The 116hp Cummins works quite well and often I run it at less than full throttle.

 

[CalTreeEquip]

The block and solenoid should be on the passage side, where all the hydraulic plumping is. There are different formations so you might what to get a manual, it will have all the specs and park numbers. There are different brands of auto feeds and different setting and pickup specs.
Make sure all the specs are correct before you replace anything. Also clean all the connectors.

 

[CalTreeEquip]

I have an 2003 1890 manual I can email you if you want to email me.
Should be real similar.

 

[jaystihl]

I have an 2003 1890 manual I can email you if you want to email me.
Should be real similar.

Thanks Caltree but i have a manual. All of the specs seem to be entered in the gauge correctly just dont know what else i can test

 

[Eq Broker]

You want to look for an auto-feed coil. It's usually on the side of the in-feed. If it has the reversing feature, you should have 2 silver/black magnets. These round magnets energize the cartridge and they can become weathered over time. Take the black plastic nut off and be careful not to break it. Pull the magnet off and clean the cartridge with emory paper the lightly oil it. They will not shift if rusted up. There's usually a red light that comes on through the cap that attaches to the coil when working.

Hope this helps!

Dave
Global Equipment Exporters
770-420-6400

 

[jaystihl]

Thanks dave, this is all ive found, but assuming its not it since its up by the filter away from infeed

 

[Eq Broker]

That's it. Just a little different version. Remove the nut off of the square magnet. If the cartridge inside of the magnet is corroded, clean it with emery paper and lightly oil it and replace the magnet. Hopefully, this will take care of your problem. It might be that the square magnet isn't working either.

Hope this helps!

Dave
Global Equipment Exporters
770-420-6400

 

[jaystihl]

That's it. Just a little different version. Remove the nut off of the square magnet. If the cartridge inside of the magnet is corroded, clean it with emery paper and lightly oil it and replace the magnet. Hopefully, this will take care of your problem. It might be that the square magnet isn't working either.

Hope this helps!

Dave
Global Equipment Exporters
770-420-6400

Great thanks! I do have reverse on the bar, where the infeed is , does that mean there should be another one of these magnets somewhere?

 

[Eq Broker]

If your chipper has the reversing auto-feed, you'll need to find the other coil like you took a picture of. Reversing auto-feed backs the log off of the drum so the engine can regain its RPM's faster. If you don't have the reversing auto-feed, the log can slightly tick the knives taking the engine a little longer to regain its RPM's.

Dave
Global Equipment Exporters
770-420-6400

 

[nitro1253]

My 04 1590 doesn't have reversing auto feed so I'm sure the 03 doesn't either

 

[Reubenrice]

I just bought a 2003 Bandit 1590xp ( The guy said it was ready to work) and not knowing a lot about chippers yet , I believed him because everything seemed to work. Unfortunately after i bought it I realized the autofeed isnt working on big stuff. It will just keep pulling in the log and bog the engine down. Can anyone tell me where the autofeed solenoid is? Or can anyone tell me what to look for, or test???? Please help , spent alot of money already and cant afford a mechanic

I have the exact same chipper! 2003 1590XP
Which is actually only a 15" chipper. But as far as your problem goes, I've already been there and did that.
The problem isn't in your silinoid, it's in your high pressure low fuel filters my friend.
If: auto feed works normally with little brush running through, but when it has a big load/log going through it the engine struggles to idle back up to HI RPM to start feeder wheels spinning again and auto feed working then...

1. Simply, pull out both high pressure and low pressure fuel filters there's two of them one of them is in between the engine and the diesel fuel gas tank and the other one is directly connected to the engine.
2. Shake the hell outta the filter, Dump all of the diesel fuel out of the fuel filters. Then for more diesel in there and shake the hell out of it again and dump it out rinse and repeat at least five times. More than likely and one of them if not both of them you will see a rust color as you dump out the diesel fuel. This is actually from rust in your gas tank! A lot of times he's older model chippers will sit for a while with no gas and they will build the beginning stages of rust inside the tank. When you first buy the chipper the film of rust will settle to the bottom of all the filters and then when you run it especially with a load or a large log it's sucking super fast at such a pressure especially in your high pressure fuel filter and it will suck up that film that sits at the bottom of the fuel filter. So basically all you're doing is cleaning out each fuel filter or you're buying new ones and putting them in which is the easier way but both ways will get you up and running again!!!


Trust me I did everything you're doing right now until I called one of my best friends who happens to be a diesel certified Master mechanic. As soon as I did that boom the chipper around like a champion. I can now stick logs as big as I can fit in that feeder wheel the auto feed will trip once the RPMs go down at 1800 and then it will start pulling wood and brush into the chipper once the RPMs hit 2200.. these are your TAC RPM Hi (2200) Low (1800) settings for that chipper.
When you put the fuel filters back in be sure that you fill them all the way up to the top with diesel fuel. Then after both of them are in and locked in you'll have to prime it with the primer pump should be on the front just the left of the turbo it's a little lever that you push down and you'll have to do it for quite a while to get fuel back up... A quick trick though is to pump the primer at least 15 times then heat your glow plugs up then try and start it...

There is another thumb I can suggest though. What I do is simply call Bandit OEM shop. The actual guess that design and service Bandit chippers inside the company. They freaking know everything and 90% of the time just tell me what the problem is over the phone and how to fix it and even where to look on the engine or chipper exactly to fix it.

Bandit
(989) 561-2270
All for service then tell them you need help from a service mechanic. They always have helped me for me and have always been right so far. I use them all the time for free help