Bar and Chain Craze

[redbull660]

Got a bunch of bars and chains… I thought I would post some data on them and things I’ve noticed after having them for a while.

I will start off with the shorter bars and move on up...

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 20" .050 gauge
Weight - 2 lbs 13.5oz,
Actual Length 23.0" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 18 1/2"
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 20" .063 gauge
Weight - 2 lbs 13 oz,
Actual Length 23.0" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 18 1/2"
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Sugi Hara 20" .050 gauge
Weight - 2 lbs 2.5 oz,
Actual Length 23.0" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 18 ½”
Bar Thickness - .1750"

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 25" .050 gauge
Weight - 3 lbs 10.5 oz,
Actual Length 27 1/2" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 23.0”
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Stihl ES, Wide Nose 25" .063 gauge
Weight - 3 lbs 9 oz,
Actual Length 27 3/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 22 7/8”
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 28" .050 gauge
Weight - 3 lbs 14 oz,
Actual Length 30 1/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 25 ½”
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 28" .063 gauge
Weight - 3 lbs 13.5 oz,
Actual Length 30 1/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 25 ½”
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Stihl ES, Light Bar Narrow Nose 28" .063 gauge
Weight - 2 lbs 11.5 oz,
Actual Length 30 1/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 25 ½”
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Tsumura Light & Tough 28" .063 gauge
Weight - 3 lbs 2.5 oz,
Actual Length 29 7/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 25 ½”
Bar Thickness - .2030"

Bar - Tsumura/Carlton 28" .063 gauge
Weight - 3 lbs 15 oz,
Actual Length 29 7/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 25 ½”
Bar Thickness - .2030"

Bar - Tsumura/Total Super 28" .050 gauge
Weight - 3 lbs 10 oz,
Actual Length 29 7/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 25 ½”
Bar Thickness - .1830" (a bit thinner than the .063 Tsumura's)

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 30" .063 gauge
Weight - 4 lbs 2.5 oz,
Actual Length 32 3/4" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 28 1/8”
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Stihl ES, Wide Nose 30" .063 gauge
Weight - 4 lbs 5 oz,
Actual Length 32 5/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) =28.0”
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 32" .050 gauge
Weight - 4 lbs 10.5 oz,
Actual Length 35 1/4" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 30 3/4"
Bar Thickness - .1875"

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 32" .063 gauge
Weight - 4 lbs 9.5 oz,
Actual Length 35 1/4" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 30 3/4"
Bar Thickness - .1875

Bar - Tsumura Solid 36" .063 gauge
Weight - 5 lbs 5.5 oz,
Actual Length 38 3/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 34.0”
Bar Thickness - .2030"

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 36" .050 gauge
Weight - 5 lbs 2 oz,
Actual Length 38 5/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 34.0”
Bar Thickness - .1875

Bar - Stihl ES, Narrow Nose 36" .063 gauge
Weight - 5 lbs 0.5 oz,
Actual Length 38 5/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 34.0”
Bar Thickness - .1875

Bar - Stihl ES, WIDE Nose 36" .063 gauge
Weight - 5 lbs 7 oz,
Actual Length 38 1/2" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 33 7/8”
Bar Thickness - .1875

have one more, but that will have to go on the next post due to pic limit.

 

[redbull660]

Last but not least -

Bar - Stihl ES, Light Bar Narrow Nose 36" .050 gauge
Weight - 3 lbs 10.5 oz,
Actual Length 38 5/8" , Length past spikes on 660 (available length to cut with) = 34.0”
Bar Thickness - .1875

Ok next up are some pics of the saw with some of the different bars on it. Again I'll start shorter and work my way up.



note: all the pictures are taken from the same spot/distance away and with the same amount of focus. The handle and blade are always lined up with the edge of the railing.



Stihl 20" ES Narrow Nose

Sugi Hara 20"

Stihl 25" ES Wide Nose

Stihl 25" ES Narrow Nose

Stihl 28" ES Narrow Nose

Tsumura/Carlton 28"

Tsumura/Total Super 28"

Tsumura Light n Tough 28"

Stihl ES Light Bar 28" Narrow Nose

 

[redbull660]

Stihl ES 30" Wide Nose

Stihl ES 30" Narrow Nose

Stihl 32" Narrow Nose

Tsumura Solid 36"

Stihl 36" Narrow Nose

Stihl 36" Wide Nose

Stihl 36" Light Bar Narrow Nose

 

[redbull660]

will post up some vids pretty soon. Gotta get my son to baseball practice

 

[7sleeper]

Wow! Sure is a lot of work you have done! Some pics didn't show up for me and I still haave to review the data a second (or third ) time.

Thanks!

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[stihl sawing]

Awesome, you sure have a lot of new bars and chains. thanks for spending the time mounting them up and the data. have you had those a while or just bought them and do you plan on using them much?

 

[redbull660]

pics fixed

 

[Duane(Pa)]

Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do this.

 

[Nate66n1]

nice collection of bars, oh yea nice saw too

 

[Deets066]

Great info! This sorta stuff really helps when trying to decide what bar to buy. Speaking of which ya want to sell any?

 

[Raganr]

Nice posts and thanks for taking the time to do. Those wide nose bars sure are sexy.

 

[redbull660]

this vid I test RS vs RSF vs RM vs RMF vs RSLF (sq. Grd full skip) vs RD (rapid duro carbide) ...note on the Rapid Duro - this was actually a used chain. I grabbed the wrong one.

I plan to do another test just like this adding a half skip sq. grd and I am going to fabricate a half skip Rapid Duro chain for the heck of it....lol

Not sure what happened to the Rapid Micro. Also surprised the the RS full comp on a 36" did the fastest cut...by a good margin.




Rapid Super (RS) - 59.2
Rapid Super Full Skip (RSF) - 1:16.2
Rapid Micro (RM) - didn't finish
Rapid Micro (RM) 2nd try - didn't finish
Rapid Micro Full Skip (RMF) - 1:21.9
Sq. Ground Full Skip (RSLF) - 1:07.8
Rapid Duro Carbide (RD) - 1:27.6

 

[Sagetown]

Whooeee! That's a lota bars and chains. Thanks for the time and effort for the display. Do you own a Saw Shop?

 

[Homelite410]

VERY nice work. It is members like you that make this place enjoyable an thank you for your time in everything you have done! My hats off to you!

 

[Stihlman441]

Nice work there champ,thanks.

 

[WVhunter]

Awsome pics, thanks for sharing.

 

[nikb47]

Dang nice sticky-worthy post!!!

 

[nikb47]

I have had the rm full comp do that on my 028 with 18" before. What causes it? Cutters getting clogged up? Idk

 

[Deets066]

I was surprised to see the full comp rs faster than the full skip square. Especially on the 36"

 

[ky044]

Very nice