sunfish
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He probably meant, the 350 was the best 'plastic case' saw ever made.
But I'd rather have a 351/353...
You're right though, ST does speak English very well. :msp_smile:
Best 50cc Husky over the years??
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He probably meant, the 350 was the best 'plastic case' saw ever made.
But I'd rather have a 351/353...
You're right though, ST does speak English very well. :msp_smile:
chainsaw kid
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Yes! I've been reading to hear when someone mentioned the 353. I just built one for someone and let me tell you, she moves!
Husky 353 ported - YouTube
Kevin
SawTroll
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Exactly what I meant, no doubt there!
Regarding the best 50cc saws ever (that the thread really is about), there are only two possible answers;
346xpg or 550xpg - the jury is still out (if it got that far yet).....
I have a 1986 154SE, same as your 254XP, it is indeed a great saw. With a MM, and mild porting, the thing is a powerhouse. Most times I run a 16" bar, and it is fast, but occasionally I will put the 20" bar on, and it will hang with some 70cc saws.
chainsaw kid
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I agree with you the 254xp is a hell of a saw done up, but I think a 254 is pushing the outer limits of a 50cc class saw.
SawTroll
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I totally agree on the 254xp, no problem at all. It simply is a bit large and heavy to fit in the 50cc class, and the power fits well with that. Btw, the last time the official German test lab DLG tested one (or more?), they "found" 3.1 kW at their dyno (4.2 hp) - but I doubt that was typical of them? That is the same as the specs for the 555....
The 51/55 doesn't fit in todays pro vs. homeowner "class" system, because they were concieved from the beginning to be "Rancher" saws, by the standards of the 1980s, with a magnesium case. As we all now, todays "Rancher" saws doesn't live up to that at all (different story).
Some random thoughts (and notes) on the matter, not related to your post;
If we call the 53.2cc 55 a 50cc saw (we do), we should equally call the 2055 one the same, as the cc is exactly the same 53.2cc (except for the cp 55, that was 50.9), and the weight very close. The 2051 (also 50.9cc) should be the rather uncontested 50cc champion of the late 1980s and early 1990s, and it was replaced by the very similar 2055. The 254xp is only .8cc more than 53.2, but it is a larger, heavier and stronger saw - too much so imo, to fit in the class.
A "joker" here (in the historic perspective) is of course the 115iH, since the original specs were quite impressive - however, the issue is that DLG tests showed it weights substantially more than the specs told, actually more than a pound more, bringing it up to 2055 weight. An interesting note is that model still is listed as a current model in Europe (well, at least in Germany and Norway, didn't check any other sites).
The info is a bit confusing regarding what the closed port 53.2cc P5500 and PP325 weights, so it is a bit hard to rate them against other saws - the only somewhat reliable info I have indicate they were quite a bit heavier than the P5000, and even heavier than the 254xp - but I don't really understand why they should be? Power rating was very good in the 1980s (at 3.6hp).
Then there was the 026, that never was the "power champ" of the class, but is lighter than all the above?
First, it never performed as well as the rated power indicated - second, the inboard clutch offset the the advantage of the lighter weight - and then came 1999, and a few years later the US version of the MS260 (sad story)..
SawTroll
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I just posted that it breaks them - but there are no firm rules. :msp_smile:
The 154se might fit in though, it really is just a matter of how much lighter it really was....
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chainsaw kid
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I just posted that it breaks them - but there are no firm rules. :msp_smile:
The 154se might fit in though, it really is just a matter of how much lighter it really was....
Good stuff Nico, nice job with the post.
Jet47
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I ran so many 254's over the years I lost count.
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I've had personal experience with 3 different 350's. All 3 are now junk sitting in the corner of 3 different garages. That being said I wouldn't own one.
On another note. My Husky 55 was bought used about 6 years ago and still runs like a new one. I honestly can't remember a single repair needed other than the usual sprocket, B&C, and filters.
On another note. My Husky 55 was bought used about 6 years ago and still runs like a new one. I honestly can't remember a single repair needed other than the usual sprocket, B&C, and filters.
The 55 Rancher models are great firewood saws, smooth/broad power curve and very well made. About the only thing that separates them from a "pro" saw is the engine driven oiler instead of clutch driven. They really show their colors if you set the up with an 18" bar and .325" chain instead of the 20" bar and 3/8". I've owned quite a few of them over the years. If you are lucky enough to locate a 55 with the closed port P/C, they are excellent. Slightly less cc's than the Rancher model, but more power and chain speed. They are fast cutting saws, with excellent power to weight ratio.
I also have a 51 "special", in mint shape. It's similiar in power to the 55 Rancher's I've owned, but not on par anyplace with a closed port 55.
Steve mentioned the Echo CS-510/520. They are "sleepers" in the 50cc range. Strong power and excellent power to weight. I've done timed cuts against the closed port 55's, and the Echo is just as fast with more "grunt" than the Husqvarna's........Cliff
I also have a 51 "special", in mint shape. It's similiar in power to the 55 Rancher's I've owned, but not on par anyplace with a closed port 55.
Steve mentioned the Echo CS-510/520. They are "sleepers" in the 50cc range. Strong power and excellent power to weight. I've done timed cuts against the closed port 55's, and the Echo is just as fast with more "grunt" than the Husqvarna's........Cliff
ArkansasAdams
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Ive delt with several 455's and im just not impressed with the weight to power ratio. My vote would be for a Echo CS-520 with a muffler Mod. My 520 will flat out cut a Husky 455 and is a whole lot easier on your back!
Niko, I just happen to know a guy with one of each of those that can answer that weight question about those 2.
Just never got around to checking that out. I really dont think they will be much at all heavier then a 500..
I do know there was no 50cc Husky that will run with them, even though the Huskys seem to owe alot about them to those 2.
SawTroll
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Niko, I just happen to know a guy with one of each of those that can answer that weight question about those 2.
Just never got around to checking that out. I really dont think they will be much at all heavier then a 500..
I do know there was no 50cc Husky that will run with them, even though the Huskys seem to owe alot about them to those 2.
I can't really imagine why they would be much heavier either - but according to the only specs I have seen (an old Partner bruchure in Swedish), there are...:msp_confused:
Also, I wonder why Husky left a big open "gap" in their line-up of professional chainsaw models as long as they did. Even the (OE) 346xp was only 45cc, so their first true 50cc pro saw actually was the NE346xp, as late as 2007.....
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