bought a 441 Magnum today

[manual]

Hah! Just couldn't stay away, could you? Any thread with 441 in the title just draws you like a moth to flame. You're gonna end up owning one yet.

Nope from what I have learned is.
Why buy a 441 that cost more then a 7900.
then go out and spend more money modding it to say it will almost keep up with a Dolmar 7900.
Also If someone owned a 441 and does not like the 441. Don't talk about it around here. Because you will be called names. WTF ?

 

[TooTall999]

Nope from what I have learned is.
Why buy a 441 that cost more then a 7900.
then go out and spend more money modding it to say it will almost keep up with a Dolmar 7900.
Also If someone owned a 441 and does not like the 441. Don't talk about it around here. Because you will be called names. WTF ?

My feelings exactly...why pay more for an inferior saw?

 

[CaseyForrest]

Nope from what I have learned is.
Why buy a 441 that cost more then a 7900.
then go out and spend more money modding it to say it will almost keep up with a Dolmar 7900.
Also If someone owned a 441 and does not like the 441. Don't talk about it around here. Because you will be called names. WTF ?

OK, first thing....

Dont get the wrong impression. Im not attacking you at all. I think you take great pride in what you do.

You are right, dollar for dollar the 7900 is a better saw. Im assuming you are referring to my comparing a modded 441 to another 7900. The purpose of that was to see if the new EPA mandated saw had in fact seen any significant gains. We used the 7900 BECAUSE it is a bad ass saw. I dont believe we ever said buying a 441, and then spending the money to mod it was the best choice. Things aligned themselves on my end so that purchasing and modding the 441 did not cost me allot of money.

As far as owning a 441 and then saying you dont like it? Well, first you have to own one. Second, you really only need say say you dont like it once, maybe twice. If you keep on with it dont get twisted when someone calls you out.

 

[GASoline71]

Ditto on singing the praises of the 441. Enough is enough but 47 pages is absurd.

Okay... I have agreed with Dan now twice in one month... Enough is enough!!!

Gary

 

[RiverRat2]

You Go Boy!!!!!!!

NOt my cup of Tea, Maybe you should take your Designer saws and go out in the woods and make a living with them. LOL


futher more I use my saws to make money. I work on them myself. and I earn every bit of the money I make with them. So just maybe I just might know something.

That sounds reasonable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lakeside53]

Okay... I have agreed with Dan now twice in one month... Enough is enough!!!

Gary

Yep!


Hey Dan, did your dealer ever get those two 441's started???

 

[manual]

OK, first thing....

Dont get the wrong impression. Im not attacking you at all. I think you take great pride in what you do.

You are right, dollar for dollar the 7900 is a better saw. Im assuming you are referring to my comparing a modded 441 to another 7900. The purpose of that was to see if the new EPA mandated saw had in fact seen any significant gains. We used the 7900 BECAUSE it is a bad ass saw. I dont believe we ever said buying a 441, and then spending the money to mod it was the best choice. Things aligned themselves on my end so that purchasing and modding the 441 did not cost me allot of money.

As far as owning a 441 and then saying you dont like it? Well, first you have to own one. Second, you really only need say say you dont like it once, maybe twice. If you keep on with it dont get twisted when someone calls you out.

Never Said I owned a 441, This is a friend of mine that does, "One that used it daily". As a matter of fact other loggers tried it out and Laughed.
Do I trust his opinion ? Yes he is a thrid generation logger, His dad owned the largest Mill in Michigan at one time, My friend has owned quite a few shortwood skidders in his time where he has worked alone for years.


Got to go.

 

[GASoline71]

Yep!


Hey Dan, did your dealer ever get those two 441's started???

HAHAHAHAHAHA!:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

Gary

 

[manual]

OK, first thing....

Dont get the wrong impression. Im not attacking you at all. I think you take great pride in what you do.

You are right, dollar for dollar the 7900 is a better saw. Im assuming you are referring to my comparing a modded 441 to another 7900. The purpose of that was to see if the new EPA mandated saw had in fact seen any significant gains. We used the 7900 BECAUSE it is a bad ass saw. I dont believe we ever said buying a 441, and then spending the money to mod it was the best choice. Things aligned themselves on my end so that purchasing and modding the 441 did not cost me allot of money.

As far as owning a 441 and then saying you dont like it? Well, first you have to own one. Second, you really only need say say you dont like it once, maybe twice. If you keep on with it dont get twisted when someone calls you out.

Never Said I owned a 441, This is a friend of mine that does, "One that used it daily". As a matter of fact other loggers tried it out and Laughed.
Do I trust his opinion ? Yes he is a thrid generation logger, His dad owned the largest Mill in Michigan at one time, My friend has owned quite a few shortwood skidders in his time where he has worked alone for years.


Got to go.

So what I am trying to say is not everybody is going to sing praise over the 441 even those that have owned it.
To me there is a big differance in cutting cookies and felling grade trees.

Like my friend said the 441 would make a good firewood saw.
Would I buy a 441 ? No, I would go towards the 7900 like he did.

Did you call me out ? No, cause I don't wear panties nore do I have any to give out.

 

[RiverRat2]

So what I am trying to say is not everybody is going to sing praise over the 441 even those that have owned it.
To me there is a big differance in cutting cookies and felling grade trees.

Like my friend said the 441 would make a good firewood saw.
Would I buy a 441 ? No, I would go towards the 7900 like he did.

Did you call me out ? No, cause I don't wear panties nore do I have any to give out.

opcorn: opcorn: opcorn: opcorn:

 

[04ultra]

I don't wear panties nore do I have any to give out.

Hmmmmmmmmm............................More then I care to know....opcorn: opcorn:


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[Cut4fun]

I was in the Stihl dealers Thurs. Before he told me he hadn't sold a 441 yet. Well that day there was a used 441 on the used saw section. I made the comment hey i see you finally sold one. Got the return look and stated returned it for a 460.
441 stock is real smooth in the cut, but does seem underpowered for a 70cc saw. Guess the 7900 has spoiled me.

 

[manual]

Hmmmmmmmmm............................More then I care to know....opcorn: opcorn:


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Theres only one person that wears panties in this household and thats my wife. And you ain't gettin any of em.:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[04ultra]

Theres only one person that wears panties in this household and thats my wife. And you ain't gettin any of em.:hmm3grin2orange:

Your wife is a very nice lady............ You better be nice to her..




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[CaseyForrest]

So what I am trying to say is not everybody is going to sing praise over the 441 even those that have owned it.
To me there is a big differance in cutting cookies and felling grade trees.

Like my friend said the 441 would make a good firewood saw.
Would I buy a 441 ? No, I would go towards the 7900 like he did.

Did you call me out ? No, cause I don't wear panties nore do I have any to give out.

Thats fine. I know there have been saws Ive purchased that I wouldnt sing praise over.

I was considering the 7900 before I purchased my 441. A couple things about it I cant get past, one being the looks of it, the other being it didnt feel comfortable in my hands.

 

[THALL10326]

Thats fine. I know there have been saws Ive purchased that I wouldnt sing praise over.

I was considering the 7900 before I purchased my 441. A couple things about it I cant get past, one being the looks of it, the other being it didnt feel comfortable in my hands.

Awwwwwwww Cassey don't let ole Manual get ya riled up. He's stirring the pot is all he's doing and sitting back grinning the whole time, I'd lay money on it. I will smack his hide though by using his own words. He told me in his area nothing beats the 372 yet his friend bought a 7900, hmmmmmm,LOLOL

So tell me Cassey, how did the saws do in big wood. I saw the vids yaw posted but I'm on dial up and I couldn't get them to play. Did the 7900 wipe out the 441 in big wood or did they run pretty close??

 

[THALL10326]

Huh? The carb is a Walbro HD model (440's use the HD) with the air intake bolted on. The carb is only a single barrel. The other is for the strat air.

LOLOL,, Lake is the picture getting more clear as to why the feller didn't like the saw,wink!

 

[CaseyForrest]

Awwwwwwww Cassey don't let ole Manual get ya riled up. He's stirring the pot is all he's doing and sitting back grinning the whole time, I'd lay money on it. I will smack his hide though by using his own words. He told me in his area nothing beats the 372 yet his friend bought a 7900, hmmmmmm,LOLOL

So tell me Cassey, how did the saws do in big wood. I saw the vids yaw posted but I'm on dial up and I couldn't get them to play. Did the 7900 wipe out the 441 in big wood or did they run pretty close??

Its was a close one. We both felt the 441 was a tad faster. The biggest difference is you could lean on the 7900 a tad more. But let each saw do what it wants to do and the 441 was through the cut faster.

Almost to close to call.

I dont have any particular gripe with manual. From what I see hes a stand up guy. Gets old reading the same people finding faults with saws they dont own. I could go on and on about the 142 I used to own. One of the biggest POS I ever owned. But Id rather talk up Stihl than Bash Husky.

 

[THALL10326]

Its was a close one. We both felt the 441 was a tad faster. The biggest difference is you could lean on the 7900 a tad more. But let each saw do what it wants to do and the 441 was through the cut faster.

Almost to close to call.

I dont have any particular gripe with manual. From what I see hes a stand up guy. Gets old reading the same people finding faults with saws they dont own. I could go on and on about the 142 I used to own. One of the biggest POS I ever owned. But Id rather talk up Stihl than Bash Husky.

Cool, sounds like DN did a good job on that baby. If its hanging with or is a tad faster than a 7900 then its running dayumm good.

Yeah Manual is ok, got no issue with him at all but I know what he is doing, I can smell a pot stirrer all the way across the country. He's grinning and laffing the whole time. Go back a few pages and see what happened to his hide when he bucked up againist THE CHAMP. Two pot stirrers met head on, Champ winning of course,LOL

 

[Peacock]

Why buy a 441 that cost more then a 7900.

I bought it because I liked it better. It fit my hands better and balanced better. I'd also like to know where Dolmar gets their weights from because it didn't feel a bit lighter.

Will the 7900 cut more wood with 2 gal. of fuel? I think not.