zogger
Tree Freak
Au contraire
I would actually like to get one of the new pp5020s, albeit with a different chain. They seem good value so far, based on the reports. Frankly, I am liking all the poulans I am touching so far, from oldest to newest. I keep going to other makes/models and invariably they are harder to work on, and the poulans seem to cut just as well or better, and are cheaper, with widescale parts availability except for the real old models.
When you consider what the next step up is in price into the 50 Cc or near to it class, say a 445 or 55 rancher, around there, still being sold as a lowly "home mortgage payer" level saw, at twice the price, or a "pro" version being three times the price, well..are they *really* worth all that more in price due to some quality features present?
I can't answer that, just don't know. And this saw just hasn't been out long enough for anyone to know that yet, or speak on it with any authority. I'd like to see some reviews were it was taken out on the job in a professional setting, just to see how long they would last. Yes, most likely with a smaller bar and different chain.
I am thinking with this saw, plus the reports you really can run them with the stock settings, and the muff is already open, and a strato design that apparently meets all EPA regs without having a closed cat can, etc, is leading me to believe Poulan might have turned a corner and is on the way back to making competitive saws.
I mean, who knows? Maybe a coupla years ago they were sitting around poulan intergalactic headquarters and some dude piped up "You know guys, this building saws really ain't rocket surgery, there's no law says we *have* to build crap saws. Let's try one a little better quality like in the olden days, price it well below big orange brother here and..them other guys, the ones with the mercedes and beemers and overstuffed wallets..., and see what happens".
Any brand having "safety features" isn't going to work as well as chain that doesn't
I ran a loop of some kind of Oregon safety chain on my Sears Pro Yellow Max 40cc saw. I ordered a 16 inch bar and 56 DL Woodsman Pro 30LP from Baileys, and it turned out I needed a 57 DL chain. I took the stock loop down to my local saw shop and had him make me a 57DL loop out of it. It cut better than I remember safety cutting. It wasn't 30 LP by any stretch, but I think safety chain is falling into the same argument that this thread is trying to dispose the myth of.
The 5020 wasn't made for guys on this website!!! The guy that this saw is intended to be sold to is going to run it may be 2 hrs in 2 years. When the chain goes dull, this guy won't even remember when he bought the saw and he's going down to Sears or Lowes to get a new loop and if he's lucky the girl thats working that Sunday won't give him the wrong chain. This safety chain talk is starting to sound like the oil threads.
I would actually like to get one of the new pp5020s, albeit with a different chain. They seem good value so far, based on the reports. Frankly, I am liking all the poulans I am touching so far, from oldest to newest. I keep going to other makes/models and invariably they are harder to work on, and the poulans seem to cut just as well or better, and are cheaper, with widescale parts availability except for the real old models.
When you consider what the next step up is in price into the 50 Cc or near to it class, say a 445 or 55 rancher, around there, still being sold as a lowly "home mortgage payer" level saw, at twice the price, or a "pro" version being three times the price, well..are they *really* worth all that more in price due to some quality features present?
I can't answer that, just don't know. And this saw just hasn't been out long enough for anyone to know that yet, or speak on it with any authority. I'd like to see some reviews were it was taken out on the job in a professional setting, just to see how long they would last. Yes, most likely with a smaller bar and different chain.
I am thinking with this saw, plus the reports you really can run them with the stock settings, and the muff is already open, and a strato design that apparently meets all EPA regs without having a closed cat can, etc, is leading me to believe Poulan might have turned a corner and is on the way back to making competitive saws.
I mean, who knows? Maybe a coupla years ago they were sitting around poulan intergalactic headquarters and some dude piped up "You know guys, this building saws really ain't rocket surgery, there's no law says we *have* to build crap saws. Let's try one a little better quality like in the olden days, price it well below big orange brother here and..them other guys, the ones with the mercedes and beemers and overstuffed wallets..., and see what happens".