Bought new MS361

[Lakeside53]

The dealer did NOT say anything about a POP or a blurp and then the need to move the lever up a notch to the "warm" start position. Since I have not heard of this or experienced this before I did not notice that he may have done the procedure without letting us in on the "secret".
The guy probably had this as a part of his routine and we have not needed to use this procedure.
We had told him we are familiar with chainsaws, but each chainsaw obviously has different start up procedures. He assumed incorrectly we knew about His procedure.
It is not our OE but an error on the part of the dealer.
I am not giving up on the saw but it was mighty embarrasing to show off a non starting saw.

Did you skim though the manual?

and... Skip the decomp for hot starts until you have a few tanks though it. I just skip it all togther when hot - that was you don't have to guess "choke or no choke" when marginally hot, and I never have a starting issue.

 

[OilHead]

I recentley bought a couple file handles that have accomadations for storage af a new spark plug inside. Pick up a few extra plugs & you'll never be left stranded again.

 

[ropensaddle]

A flooded saw happens sometimes what works for me is take it off choke
and drop start at wide open throttle until she starts. I don't recommend
for a novice sawperator as you have to be strong enough to keep off
your body and tip outta dirt but I have drop started saws for most of
my professional carrier but do know the proper so called way.

 

[Simonizer]

Just bought the ms 361 today and learned the saw at the store, started it up and such. Then I took it over to my dad's house to show it off against his 34 yr old Jonsereds 651. I should have left it in the case and stayed home and brought over an axe instead, at least that worked. I can not believe the stupid bleepin,bleepin thing would not even start or come close to starting. My dad then started his old trusty tank of a saw with 1 pull.
My worthless saw is indeed lighter by 3# actual weight but it feels more like 10# lighter. his saw has a 16" bar and mine has a worthless 20" bar.Does the length make the balance and felt weight so much difference.
It did get flooded so we took out the plug and dried the thing and other procedures to no avail. The only result is a painful back and bruised knuckles.Any suggestions before I go back to store 65 miles away.

The MS361 is one of the best saws on the market today. I think you screwed-up and flooded it.

 

[pbuehning]

+1 on most of the replys and the flooding. You really don't need the decomp and if you've never used one it does seem to cause "new" users to flood it. It really doesn't take that much of a pull.

Stop beating yourself up and "become one with your saw" in a couple of weeks you'll come back to this post and laugh.

BTW - love my 361, it will always be in my stable.opcorn:

 

[SawTroll]

Just bought the ms 361 today and learned the saw at the store, started it up and such. Then I took it over to my dad's house to show it off against his 34 yr old Jonsereds 651. ......

Is 651 a misprint a misprint for 621 (never heard of a 651)?

If so, it is a pretty darn good saw for its age and size (56cc) - I have one that is 37 years old, and still going strong.....

 

[Sprig]

I see by RCR's other thread that he has found saw's 'happy factor'

Amazing what a bit of good advice and some persistance will accomplish!

Good on ya RCR and safe cuttin' this weekend!



Serge

 

[RCR 3 EVER]

Dad's saw is the 621 and it is our usual saw we use for cutting trees up and never has given us problems. Except weight is a factor with my injured back.
Have checked the pm's and thanks for suggestions on how to get the saw running. My wife and I did read the manual first, the English version only though,prior to starting the saw. I would have really gotten screwed up reading the other version.
I think what happened is dealer started and ran the saw and then put in the case and after 2 hours in the trunk we stared it thinking cold engine thus we flooded it thoroughly after not hearing a slight pop or blurp sound.
I was compalining about saw in the posts but more from standpoint of asking for much needed help since dealer was closed.

 

[Cut4fun]

I have a 361 and it floods REAL easy. Give it some time, run a few tanks of gas through it, mod the muffler,adjust the carb...you'll be glad you bought it.

+1
The 357 floods easy too (also have 361), just operator error.
You will learn the feel for starting different saws in time. Lord knows I have to remember what I am starting, if its my, Husky, Dolmar, Stihl, Partner, Poulan, etc.

 

[Fuzly]

Nothing wrong with drop starting a saw...I start them like that all the time...seems safe to me.

I didn't think it was that bad either. Guess I'm just a chicken, thought I'd get flamed if I didn't put the little disclaimer in there.

 

[Fuzly]

A flooded saw happens sometimes what works for me is take it off choke
and drop start at wide open throttle until she starts. I don't recommend
for a novice sawperator as you have to be strong enough to keep off
your body and tip outta dirt but I have drop started saws for most of
my professional carrier but do know the proper so called way.

That's how we used to clear them out. Some upper body strength required, but it worked good.

Is it time for a drop starting thread or has this been done before? I usually lock between my knees, but I still cringe when I see somebody put one on the ground and stick their foot in it. Grandpa always said saws don't belong on the ground, that's how the chain gets dull, bad habit even when starting.

I do still drop start occasionally when the saw is warm.

 

[SawTroll]

There was a long tread about drop starting vs other methods a while ago.......

I allways do it, but I have started to put the chainbrake on, when the saws are cold or the bar long.

 

[RCR 3 EVER]

I have done drop starts with old saw before quite often ,especially when warm. It is easier than stooping to the ground. Back in the day that method was shown to us by loggers who came through and thinned property and we had to clean up all the tops for firewood.

 

[GASoline71]

I've drop started every saw I ever owned or ran (except the V-8! LOL)... from an 076 to a Power Mac 6. Ain't nothin' to it, and it's safe if ya know what your doin'.

Gary

 

[jhellwig]

I usually lock between my knees,.

I almost jacked myself in the crotch when I did that the other day and forgot to push in the decomp. That was on a 260. That is unsafe in my opinion.

 

[spacemule]

I almost jacked myself in the crotch when I did that the other day and forgot to push in the decomp. That was on a 260. That is unsafe in my opinion.

You have to have your knee bent when you do that one, and also pull to the side, not up. There is no reason you shouldn't be able to rip the cord completely out of the saw and never come near your crotch. Of course everyone is built differently too I guess.

 

[jhellwig]

It was a goof on my part for not totally being prepared. If you saw me you would wounder why I even use the decomp on a 260 much less haveing such a small saw.

 

[2000ssm6]

I almost jacked myself in the crotch when I did that the other day and forgot to push in the decomp. That was on a 260. That is unsafe in my opinion.

I fear that also. I always drop start with brake on.....

 

[GASoline71]

I fear that also. I always drop start with brake on.....

What's a brake???

Gary

 

[2000ssm6]

Lol

What's a brake???

Gary

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