The saws here are mostly Va. Beach. But, yeah they have plants everywhere.
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The saws here are mostly Va. Beach. But, yeah they have plants everywhere.
The Mtronic saws are programmable , but it is beyond most of us.
I was talking about plain old carbs with limiters. I disable the limiters on my saws.
But, they have made it more difficult since the little red inserts you could pull out with a drywall screw and grind the tab off with a Dremel tool.
And, Stihl tells the dealer plainly not to do it.
Not sure what you are saying here. You indicated that you don't start a saw before selling because when it leaves the factory there is nothing that needs to be adjusted and I replied that factory setting might work for an autotune saw (they are supposed to self adjust for elevation, temp, etc.) but some areas where the elevation and climate are different from the factory location, carbs would need some adjustment.
At Stihl dealer I worked for everything with gas engine was started and tuned before it went out the door, I've bought 2 saws from them since I quit working there and wife bought a used Zero turn mower, they all was ran and tuned before they was handed to us
The cheap little Echo I bought from different dealer last spring was also started and tuned.
The cheap little Echo I bought from different dealer last spring was also started and tuned.
As a percentage we don't sell many Mtronics. The plain Jane saws all have limiters and they come from the factory hard against the limiter. Most around here are made pretty much at sea level. Not sure the elevation of the Va Beach plant but can't be much.
I don't know what ambient temperature the tuning is done, but higher elevations should need less fuel.
If it makes the dealer feel better to start the saw that's fine. Not sure what he thinks he is adjusting.
The VA Beach plant is at sea level.
Been to the factory twice, did Gold school at Virginia Beach. Yes, what you say is true about what they do at the factory. Most are just fine, but not always. A couple a year. But I will still check them all. Got to talk to the customer about operation anyway. I think it shows we care. Seems to have increased business over the years.
We had a bunch of FS-38's that came in lean this past spring. Had to trim that external limiter or just over power it with a big handled screw driver. Assume the factory machine got off some how.
But, I am in a different world. I will put it in a log and get it up to operating temp before I tune anything that has been rebuilt, new carb, or just the owner screwing with it.
Can't hardly do that with a new saw.
But, I suspect you know what you are listening for.
BTW, going back to the thread about dealer prep. We replaced every one of the FS-38's if that was what they wanted. Corrected the issue and resold them at a discount. Or, just corrected the issue and gave it back to them if that was satisfactory.
Definitely on the hearing. But I doubt I am telling you anything new. We know what it needs to sound like to still have power up top in the wood.
Had a batch of 017s that would scream out of the box but fall on their face in the cut. Still have a jet assortment. Tough to do when the buyer is waiting. Learned to start them ahead of time.
Occasionally one gets through. My job to make sure it isn't a comeback.
