Brits talkin about Brit stuff

[Base]

teressa green i agree on tuning saws, personally i dont see too much point in day to day use, as cutting speed isn't really a issue as far as i am concerned, and the people i work with, if i want to cut something faster i will use a more powerful standard saw i would say the biggest saw i have used in a tree is a husky 372 with a 21inch bar does the job just fine for me

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

Originally posted by Base
teressa green i agree on tuning saws, personally i dont see too much point in day to day use, as cutting speed isn't really a issue as far as i am concerned, and the people i work with, if i want to cut something faster i will use a more powerful standard saw i would say the biggest saw i have used in a tree is a husky 372 with a 21inch bar does the job just fine for me

have you used a moded saw ?? i have a 346..im telling you all the power and speed was amazing ..i dont want a moded saw for climbing use or standerd felling but it would be realy good to have a fast powerfull [ moded saw] like a 385 for ringing up big trunks of oak ,beech etc ..when there on the floor , the 346 i used seemed to have twice the pace and power of a standerd saw.. i can barely imagine what a moded 385 or 3120 must cut like

 

[teressa green]

is it worth it to invalidate the warranty ,and what about cutting speed would a bigger sprocket not give more speed,,,,,would your ppe stand up to a touch from a modded saw? what about insurance ,wanna cut faster that a 346 get a 357,reliabilty and durability ,when i work a saw i know its gonna work and not fizz and bang ,fuel costs,wear and tear ,get real stihl and husky know saws more so than some 2 stroke ex fs1e owner,why mess with a complete package ,would you tune a transit van to haul more wood ?

 

[a_lopa]

when are we coming to weild the willow on the poms, cant be to far away so many good batsmen its rediculous no one can get in the team permanent.

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

Originally posted by teressa green
is it worth it to invalidate the warranty ,and what about cutting speed would a bigger sprocket not give more speed,,,,,would your ppe stand up to a touch from a modded saw? what about insurance ,wanna cut faster that a 346 get a 357,reliabilty and durability ,when i work a saw i know its gonna work and not fizz and bang ,fuel costs,wear and tear ,get real stihl and husky know saws more so than some 2 stroke ex fs1e owner,why mess with a complete package ,would you tune a transit van to haul more wood ?

good points! but ya stiill got to try one... p.s I WOULD NOT WANT AN EMPLOYEE using a moded saw for insurance reasons

 

[SteveBullman]

so who does modded saws round these parts rolla.
ive got an old 357 i might get done to see what its like before i swap it for another

 

[TimberMcPherson]

I have modified alot of 2 stroke engines in bikes (But as yet very little in saws), you can really help an engine out doing the basics. All engines come out sitting in the middle, a compromise of economy, noise, emissions, longevity, power, torque, usability, ease of manufacturing, weight and price.
You can mess with any of these factors but they will always change other factors.
actually take the new 660's they havent been lasting as well as the 066's (according to mates who work in forestry). It turns out that the new saws exhaust system is to restrictive to help burn more emissions and thus give the engine a shorter life. open the muffler, better power, longer life. (little bit more noise).

Husky and stihl make good products, as do ford or ducati, but out of the box they are a compromise, a little work can make them a jem. (transits can never be gems) There is a good reason why people spend so much money improving the performance of engines. Wouldnt you like to have saw that weights as much as a 346 that cut as fast as a 044? Would really speed up a dismantle job wouldnt it?

 

[glens]

Yes, but then you're surely compromising longevity of the saw if that means anything to you.  More trade-offs...

Glen

 

[iain]

stihl and husky no what there doing (i personally like stihl )
so if it ain`t broke don`t fix it !
the liabilty issues on a staff injury if i let them loose with a mod`d saw would scare the crap out of me
but each to their own

 

[TimberMcPherson]

Originally posted by glens
Yes, but then you're surely compromising longevity of the saw if that means anything to you.  More trade-offs...

Glen

As I said, mods can double the longevity of the 660. Im practical about my saws, they cost far to much to want to cause them any harm and as long as the mods are done right and you do the basics in servicing there is no reason that mods should shorten their lifespan.
Anything I do is generally to lessen or quicken the amount of gruntwork me or my team has to do. If I can get away blocking out a 10m tall stem with a saw that weights alot less yet cuts near the same as a 044, why carry more?
I spend alot of money on gear, some of it such as my chainsaw winch only gets used once a month, but when its used it makes my life easier and jobs more profitable. Mod saws arent good everywhere, but in certain situations they shine.
But each to their own.

 

[geofore]

tuneup?

Would you tune up a transit van to haul more? Yes, many here order a 3/4 ton but get the 1 ton suspension system on the truck/van. Larger axels, brakes, heavier springs and tow package to carry loads. Glens, ported saws for work are different than having them ported more severly for racing. They tend to last longer ported for the woods but not for racing. The porting may be done as in my case of the bad back, I can't carry the heavier saw all day and expect my back not to complain. The lighter saw with the mods cuts near what a heavier saw does but is easier on the back. It's not the same thing as the old guy that buys a vette or jaguar to recapture his youth, we just want to get in a few more years of doing the treework because we enjoy it. Iain, you are not removing the safety features on the saw like the inertia chain brake or chain catcher. I don't see the ins. co complaining when there was a switch to synthetic rope from manilia or alloy caribiners from steel. Are your chaps any less likely to stop a ported saw than a bigger saw? Where is their arguement that the saw is less safe to operate to justify the rise in rates/ disqualification of coverage?

 

[glens]

I feel there's a significant difference between opening up the exhaust on an EPA-choked muffler in order to reclaim original design flow and taking the jug off to remove material and reconfigure it.  The former will not be detrimental to long life but the latter will.  The engineers put the necessary amount of "meat" in the cases to contain the bearings and crank that they've also sized for the job.  If they'd thought a saw would last long enough for a level of power output at a lesser weight, they'd do it.  This is academic stuff.

Glen

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

Originally posted by stephenbullman
so who does modded saws round these parts rolla.
ive got an old 357 i might get done to see what its like before i swap it for another

i havent got a clue who will or does modding up saws in the area,i would think one of the boys at GREENS would do ya one as a bit of a project,the modded saw i used was a friends from chelmsford and to be honest i didn't go into details about it all i know or think he had done to the saw was a bigger piston was put in it ,im not very mechanical but i know it cut realy fast ..i reckon Albert or Trevor would be able /capable of modding a saw

 

[Ross Turner]

MS200t

Hi lads,Just thought i say i have my own saw now so i can do a few small jobs to keep my hand in while looking for a full time job.
Any of you lot going to the TCC trainning weekend in April at Stone,Staffs?.I thought it would be great idea to meet up there.

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

what does tcc stand for ??

 

[Ross Turner]

Tree Climbing Comps.

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

FOR SALE an ifor williams tipping trailer 5x10 3.5 ton gross 18 months old been out /worked roughly 10 times it also has high mesh sides and spare tyre/wheel cost over £3,100+VAT im wanting £2,600 +vat no offers..i thought id give you boys a go on it before i put it in the AUTO TRADER...send me a pm if interested ROLLA...OH YEAH IT'S IN ''IMACULATE'' CONDITION

 

[Tom D. Wilson]

Quick one from the student life.
Started branch walking for the first time over the last couple of weeks, had my first instance of a brach snapping and swinging in to get a face full of trunk. Was wondering if theres any one who knows, literature on the subject of branch strengths in different species.
Cant wait to be climbing for a full time job.

 

[SteveBullman]

thats just something you'll learn from experience.
as you're a new climber i'd say there was every chance the branch that snapped was plenty strong enough for you if you'd have had more of your weight on your main line.

 

[blue]

our chip truck was hit yesterday evening by a car.it was parked outside on the road on a lit street whilst we were working out back.we heard a long skid followed by the impact.we ran out front to see a vauxhall corsa imbedded in the back of the lorry,the woman was ok but in shock but later got taken to hospital complaining of difficulty breathing and chest pains(me thinks a personal injury claim may be tried).the police were called and they came to the conclusion that we were not breaking any laws where we were parked and said the woman was totally at fault.
last night the lorry didn't look to bad but 2 of us went back this morning to finnish clearing up and wait for the guy who fixes all our vehicles.in the daylight it appears that the chassis is actually twisted and the fitter thinks it may be a write off.bummer really coz it's the best chip truck i've used in 15 years.oh well none of us were hurt so thats a good thing.could have been very differant if we were working behind it though.probably be hovis if we were