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Edinburgh Treefest, Woodworkers Wanted.

I found this, anyone interested?

Edinburgh Treefest, Sat + Sun 11th/12th June, Located across from the Botanic Gardens.

Looking for 'Woodworkers', for Exhibiting & Demonstration.

Contact Carole Fraser on 0131 332 2229 or [email protected]

Anyway, if you want to show of your skills, the 'cut off' date for entries is 25th May.

If you go, let us know. I'll come watch you!

John.
 
stephenbullman said:
skyhigh....try loosening the spring tension on the premier rollers if you're struggling to get it to take big stuff in.

Its not thats its a struggle to get the wood in the TW is just quicker on the big stuff. The no stress is better. Sometimes the premier seems to get confused and nearly stalls.
 
Hello all. It seems ages since I looked at the site. Lifes been really busy.

BIG A!! Saw you on A14 couple of times yesterday. If I knew you were stuck I'd had given you a pull.

Nice to see all your comments good and bad. Glad I'm not Jensen guy at the mo.

Skyhigh. I remember doing the demo for you that 190. You should have said you were looking for another chipper I would have made sure you a good deal from the dealer. Nice to hear it's going well.

Devon, North Wales and Cornwall next on the show list before the AA show. Got something extra special on show at North Wales and AA Show in June.
 
Timberwolf150. I remember it well. I went for the Jensen because we needed a chipper under 750kg. Had demo at the time of your 6 inch model but thought Jensen looked better choice. Maybe next time I'll know better.
The 190 is great and the lads love it. Everything you said was spot on. One of the lads has got hold of one of your t shirts from a show. Would like one if possible. Not to wear but to send to Jensen. They should make one saying "more bollocks less balls". Give me a call if you like.
 
skyhightree said:
Its not thats its a struggle to get the wood in the TW is just quicker on the big stuff. The no stress is better. Sometimes the premier seems to get confused and nearly stalls.

i'd get that looked at then if i were you cos it certainly doesnt sound like the performance im used to getting from a 220
 
WELL FOLK'S WE NOW HAVE OUR OWN FORUM....ON MASTER BLASTER'S WEBSITE !!!!
there are two threads going on at the moment...... :)


all you got to do is register and use :)
 
Cheers Timberwolf150, If I'd had a T/Wolf I expect you'd have bought us a MaccyD as well!! The track tensioner on the Jensen gave us some headaches as its not as simple as the T/W. Release the nut to allow out the grease, slide in the ram, replace the track and pump up with grease. PAH!! Ram was seized in the out position. Did the same thing on a Timberwolf couple of years ago at SP, took about 15mins to do. This thing took bloody hours. Not a good day, all in all. Still Friday 13th was clear of glitches after that. :)
 
my rg 13 [with under 20 hour's on her ] fell apart today all the guarding just fell of ,this sort of thing is just unacceptable imo
 
Thor.. You seem to have done/doing alot of research on your chippers. Like I said before have been selling chippers for the last 20 years. Interesting how many post about buying this machine or that machine thinking it is the right one,only to regret their purchase shortly after.

I have used most chippers over the years and certainly my best sales were acheived in the late 90's with the TP 760 and 960 range together with the Vermeer 620/625. The Entec and Greenmech machines soon took over. First Greenmech became the Uk leader but soon lost that spot to Entec,( now Timberwolf).

It's very interesting the way Jensen are suddenly shooting up the sales leader board, especially given the comments of some users on this thread. It seems clear that independant dealers/salesmen have a big influence to play on the chipper market.

For example at the last APF I had a hire company who were looking to break into the chipper hire and sales market they wanted to buy 2 x 6" and 2 x 9" mobile machines and had a set budget. After I did the rounds at the show getting some quotes the first importer who quoted me a dealer price realised that he would not get the order. He came back and offered an extra £8000 discount just to get the deal.

It just shows how much profit there is in chippers and how manufacture's and importers can adjust their prices to get sales No's up if they want.

Most of the tree guy's I know have now wised up to salesmen and which machines are good or bad, but at the end of the day they all like to try something new. You don't find many salesmen that will knock others machines,Why, it's simple in a couple of months time they might be selling that machine.

The chipper that you have a demo with and buy,is in the buyer's opinion the best for the money at that time. True until it breaks down or the parts back up is non existent. Best of all when you come to trade it in. We've all heard it, It's a bit tatty,you've not looked after it, nobody wants to buy a 4 yr old 2nd hand machine,The new ones we now sell have this or that fitted etc etc. Load of balls. Look at the number of machines that Mr Mason turns over.

I am moaning and feel it's about time a lot more people did. The chipper market is small in terms of annual sales units and there around 36 importers/manufacture's chasing that market. They are the ones making all the big money yet rely on a small minority to make that money. It's about time they realised that the small guy's are paying around the same amout of money for a new chipper as what they would for, lets say a decent car, mid range BMW,Merc etc yet the service and products and quality they offer bear little resemblence to that of the car. Until they get their acts together it never will.

It's time that sombody listened to the tree guy's and realised that they are business men too and not just country boys with a chainsaw or two. Until somebody does we will just have to take pot luck and believe the salesmen when they say "trust me" and " I'm not just saying this because I have a morgage to pay and really need the commission"

We should make a list of what we want and they should make sure that we get it. But buying a chipper is like voting for an MP. They will tell you what you want to hear, get the vote and you won't see them again until the next election.

Happy chipping
 
Unimog -
A very eloquent and succinct view of the UK chipper market. You have perfectly articulated my own disjointed thoughts on the matter.
Being contractors ourselves, we have come up against all the points you mention. having also worked around the world, I know how much other guys pay for their machines, and we pay far too much for our tiny poorly built machines.
We are set for a bit of a change though, with the chipfuel market coming on line, bigger chippers to chip all that cordwood will be sought after, and the chipper salesmen are rubbing their hands with thought of selling £40,000 - £50,00chippers
so enoughs enough. I am going to change this situation, and if i piss off other chipper co's tough, they've had it to good for to long, and us contractos have to stick together. the only thing i'd dissagree with you over is salesmens views of other chippers. without fail, every chipper salesman I know has made a point of slagging off his competitors machines, even though you know they've never used a chipper in anger, never mind any competitors machines...

PS what was the hire companys budget~?
 
when i started out as a contractor i bought 2nd hand chippers,coz that was all i could sensibly afford, without taking a large debt/risk without much in the way of guarunteed work, however some are drawn by the supposedly interest free offers given by some manufacturers ( but as my grandad say's now't is for now't )
work slowly improved enabling me to get newer machine 's, as i progressed i sold my machines on to other lads who were starting up or, up grading themselves,
which has led me to now, i buy and sell a few both new and used machines and as a consquence, any machines that we need for our contracting, come to us with a bit better discount
I agree whole heartedly, that the after care and parts back-up offered in general
by manufacturers is no where near good enough ! the sentiment and evidence of this is clear if they choose to look !!!
i don't know any company that can afford the additional cost's incurred because a team of workmen can't work productively all because they don't have a 15k + peice of kit (purely because someone at a factory can't be arsed to take its customers seriously )
the conseption that arboricultural company's are any less than real bussiness's, with serious overheads and running cost's needs smashing !!!!!
and i genuinely hope that these tosser's, lose custom they should be boycotted imo, they will take notice when the money slow's down because of their appathy
 
i got thinking about operators licences today [i'd love a newish 7.5 tonner]..and i started to think about how many people i know who run lorrys with out one [an o licence],what the hell are the HSE ,DOT and TRADING STANDARD'S doing id like to know !
 
VOSA are getting a very hot on O licencing, I know that much. Gotta admit I ran a 6.5 tonner for 18 months with no O licence,(oops) if its got a bonnet (ie merc 711 dodge 50) you can still get away with it if the truck looks tidy.
Why bother with a 7.5 tonner though rolla? to small for me, heres a picture of my new (to me) chip truck
 
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Thor...Going to a power plant on Wenesday. Local comany up near York are supplying woodchip, They harvest wood into 5/6" billetts and stock pile. They have looked at several chippers so far. Tests have been done with one of the big Heizhack chippers (53K).Looking for a m/c that can chip 20 tonne per hour. Will be interesting to see what,if anyting comes out of this.

Ros...Managed to use 7.5 tonner for 6 years with out licence. If you only carry your own waste(chip) then you don't need one. How ever when you get pulled carrying a load of blocks for a drive you can only blagg once and I agreed to get a licence...LOL

Ag, Forestry and Hort are exemt under EC law from Taco graph regs. If you have one in and use it they can do you if you have been speeding etc. SO DON'T USE ONE.
Thats why I now have Mogs,It's a tractor ....honest.lol
 

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