Thor's Hammer
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buying equipment other than transit/chainsaw/hedgetrimmer, competency certs, training staff, doing tidy work, adhering to 3998 etc etciain said:
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Thor's Hammer
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I see you skyhigh... 
over regulated
its not that we are over regulated, its that everysingle one of us is just not working / trying hard enough. there are 24 hours in the day to comply with the regs....
com' on lads pick up the pace.
jamie
its not that we are over regulated, its that everysingle one of us is just not working / trying hard enough. there are 24 hours in the day to comply with the regs....
com' on lads pick up the pace.
jamie
skyhightree
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Let me tell you a story about why I now have a chipper under 750kgs.
One cold / wet Friday evening 3rd gang gets pulled over. Ldv loaded to the limit. Vermeer BC150 Chipper. The lad driving was 23 and had worked for me since he was a kid. Once the copper new his age and asked questions that was it.The van and chipper was impounded and I didn't get it back until the following Tuesday. I had to pick the lads and all the kit up from the station after every item had its serial number checked and logged. Basically we were treated like rapists. Carl got 6 points and £500 quid fine. I was hit with fines totalling nearly two grand for various vehicle safety offences. (it had just been MOT'd 2 weeks earlier).
Why was he pulled over?
Faulty light on chipper.
The most expensive bulb I've ever had to buy. My vehicles and chippers have been run by the book ever since.
One cold / wet Friday evening 3rd gang gets pulled over. Ldv loaded to the limit. Vermeer BC150 Chipper. The lad driving was 23 and had worked for me since he was a kid. Once the copper new his age and asked questions that was it.The van and chipper was impounded and I didn't get it back until the following Tuesday. I had to pick the lads and all the kit up from the station after every item had its serial number checked and logged. Basically we were treated like rapists. Carl got 6 points and £500 quid fine. I was hit with fines totalling nearly two grand for various vehicle safety offences. (it had just been MOT'd 2 weeks earlier).
Why was he pulled over?
Faulty light on chipper.
The most expensive bulb I've ever had to buy. My vehicles and chippers have been run by the book ever since.
Thor's Hammer
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Bloody hell skyhigh, thats friggin' terrible. My Lawyer has told me to phone him immediatly if that happens, he reckons a lot of the stuff they come up with is bollocks. trouble with this country is youd have had better treatment if you had been a rapist. the motorist is being turned into a criminal, cause the police are to corrupt to go after real criminals.
Thor's Hammer
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loading to the limit is the reason I run 7 1/2 tonner as smallest truck. with 10 cube chip box (closed top) its very unlikely to be over loaded.
skyhightree
ArboristSite Lurker
afterwards had all the backs on LDV'S changed loaded up chip from the yard and kept visiting local weighbridge till we got it right. Quite a site watching lads watering load of conifer chip on back of van.
Thor's Hammer
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This is pretty hard to overload on treework...
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Thor's Hammer
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how big is the back on the ldv now? or how many cube can you carry safely? :Eye:skyhightree said:
skyhightree
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we can legally load about 1100kg of chip on back of crew cab ldv with 3 lads and all kit. Boards only now 3/4 high on buck. Would love a 7 1/2 ton truck but too much hassell to run one. Lads licences etc.
Thor's Hammer
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1100kgs? ouch, thats about 5 cube max fresh chip?skyhightree said:
running a 7.5 tonner is no harder than running 3.5 tonner surely? apart from the O licence.
vharrison2
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Thor's Hammer said:
Hummmmmmm, does that happen in America? Let me just check.
skyhightree
ArboristSite Lurker
4 x driving tests, O licence, 12 weekly ministry checks, planning to keep 3 on estate, (is this needed for 7 1/2 tonne?). All of the above probably a 3 yr plan. Have considered buying 1 just haven't made mind up yet. Thought we could just use it as chip wagon and not tow.
Thor's Hammer
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skyhightree said:
it is easier for me, I have a farm and yard with workshop facility's, and ministry allow us to do our own checks (they will allow anyone to do this if you ask after 6 months). all my guys have pre 97 licences. one idea is to use the ex military 1300L unimogs, as they are in like new condition often, can be picked up for about 10k, and make a ???? good little 4x4 7.5t truck. you could then tow a much bigger chipper, or a crane trailer.
billywhizz
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ROLLACOSTA said:No not at all ,when you have been out in the real world for as long as a few of us on here have been you will realize the working world is full of double standards and hypocrisy ,at the moment i guess you might be in college/ health and safety rules and regs mode.. i was the same many years ago ,imo if you run a biz 80% to the book your doing a bloody good job. 90% of tree firms are complete shambles no insurance the lot..no firm can work to every rule and regulation in the land its totally impossible ,the reason is we are over regulated..
by the way im not having a go at ya
know where u r coming from rolla. def had the regs and h&s crammed into us at skool!
ROLLACOSTA
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the only mogs ive seen are top $$$ for a heap of **** ,thor where would i find a mog like your describing for that price ???...because i will have one like that next week if there available !! ..guy around here bought a 80s model u1600 cost 30k before he got started
billywhizz
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enniwai..............
why does everyone drool over the german chippers as opposed to the good ol' brit kit???
why does everyone drool over the german chippers as opposed to the good ol' brit kit???
Thor's Hammer
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Here you go. I've had mogs, never again. (this is just my opinion of course, I know lots of you love mogs. after all they look the bollocks)
dont bother with ag spec mog. forget putting a pto chipper on the back, forget pulling giant silage trailers, been there done that its crap. use it as a small truck, where its very usefull. they have a 3m body on, converts to tipper easy. (done it).
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=8&Overide=1
dont bother with ag spec mog. forget putting a pto chipper on the back, forget pulling giant silage trailers, been there done that its crap. use it as a small truck, where its very usefull. they have a 3m body on, converts to tipper easy. (done it).
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=8&Overide=1
Thor's Hammer
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billywhizz said:
I dont drool over german chippers. mind you would you rather a rover or a bmw?
