Buy Stihl 400 or wait for 400.1?

[JD Guy]

Great!!. A little pricey and so are the files. Holds an edge well. Takes a bit to get the hang of the file. Stihl sells a hexa wheel if you use a grinder.

Following.,,Thank you for your Hexa experience. How does the wheel work for you? Interested to try this chain. Thanks!
Sorry for the thread hijack, admin feel free to move if needed!

 

[farmer steve]

Following.,,Thank you for your Hexa experience. How does the wheel work for you? Interested to try this chain. Thanks!
Sorry for the thread hijack, admin feel free to move if needed!

Sorry, I don't have the wheel. That was just a FYI for Hendog.

 

[JD Guy]

OK, thanks!

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

The 441 was also a better saw all things considered.

I agree for the most part, the 441s definitely had more power.

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

Get a 462, the 400 had a really short run, parts will be more difficult over time, and 400.1 hasn’t been tested yet.

The 400 shares about 90% of it's parts with a 362.

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

True- but you can counter that with the fact 441's were dropped like a hot brick and did not enjoy that long production run time.
Im not saying the 400-1 will be a lemon- but it pays to wait till the bugs are ironed out before jumping on the latest new model bandwagon- look back to the release of the first 661's.

Outside of it's complexity from being stihls first crack at a strato saw a 441 will out run a 440 and obviously filters air better and it's way smoother, better on fuel too. A 441 had about a 10 year run, not bad all things considered.

I'd take an mtronic 441 over a 440 anyday from a user standpoint, if I just played chainsaws or collected them I'd probably feel different...maybe.

Ya..the intro of the 661 wasn't great, but there's also a ton of 661s from their inception still running. Like anything else, the internet chainsawers blow things out of proportion. I had a first release 661 that had a bad solenoid, after that it was fine and I lost track of how many stumps that saw cut, it got worked HARD.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Outside of it's complexity from being stihls first crack at a strato saw a 441 will out run a 440 and obviously filters air better and it's way smoother, better on fuel too.

I'd take an mtronic 441 over a 440 anyday from a user standpoint, if I just played chainsaws or collected them I'd probably feel different...maybe.

Ya..the intro of the 661 wasn't great, but there's also a ton of 661s from their inception still running. Like anything else, the internet chainsawers blow things out of proportion. I had a first release 661 that had a bad solenoid, after that it was fine and I lost track of how many stumps that saw cut, it got worked HARD.

Good for you- lots of first gen 661's got run over by excavators here, or fell off trucks into rivers.
Guys got sick of paying top dollar for something that gave issues from low hour use and went back to known 660's and 395XP's.
That's from real life experiences- not internet trolling.
And Ive never met a 441 I (or most anyone else here) liked.

But, everyone is entitled to their own experiences and opinions- my point is/was- dont jump on the early first release of a model before it is proven in the field.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

The 400 shares about 90% of it's parts with a 362.

A number of parts are - plastics, air filter, covers, clutch, muffler, etc but some of the core components aren’t - Piston, cylinder, crank case, carburetor, etc.

 

[whodatschrome]

I’m in the same boat…do i buy a 400 now, or wait however long for the 400.1 to show up in the states. Bonus points towards the 400 that the 362R’s wrap handle, side cover, and dogs will fit right onto the 400. Then swap in an HO oil pump. Currently the 400.1 doesn’t have a full wrap handle option. That’s not to say that stihl won’t design one for it, but i think that if stihl ever did manufacture a full wrap handle for the saw, it would have been during their initial design and development of it.

The 400 doesn’t have a heated handle. The 400.1 is available with the arctic package…but not in the US.

I’m not in “need” of a 400 or 400.1, but i would like to eventually get one or the other sooner than later. I can easily make do with my current 362R and 660. I would like a saw with a smidge more power than my 362, so that’s why i’m looking at the 400 series. I know the 400 has more power, but since i already have a 660, i can always use that saw instead. I’m more inclined to go after the 400.1 since it’s lighter weight.

As for the 440 and 441 saws…i never used a 441, but i did buy a brand new MS440 Magnum when stihl rereleased them for the very last time in the US. I was thoroughly underwhelmed with that saw. I bucked up about 4 cords of wood with it and then promptly sold it on craigslist (which was an absolute hilarious story in itself). I then went back to my deal and bought a new 362R and 660R and all was right in my world again.

 

[farmer steve]

A number of parts are - plastics, air filter, covers, clutch, muffler, etc but some of the core components aren’t - Piston, cylinder, crank case, carburetor, etc.

I hate them plastic mufflers.

 

[bwalker]

I agree for the most part, the 441s definitely had more power.

And better antivibe.

 

[bwalker]

I’m in the same boat…do i buy a 400 now, or wait however long for the 400.1 to show up in the states. Bonus points towards the 400 that the 362R’s wrap handle, side cover, and dogs will fit right onto the 400. Then swap in an HO oil pump. Currently the 400.1 doesn’t have a full wrap handle option. That’s not to say that stihl won’t design one for it, but i think that if stihl ever did manufacture a full wrap handle for the saw, it would have been during their initial design and development of it.

The 400 doesn’t have a heated handle. The 400.1 is available with the arctic package…but not in the US.

I’m not in “need” of a 400 or 400.1, but i would like to eventually get one or the other sooner than later. I can easily make do with my current 362R and 660. I would like a saw with a smidge more power than my 362, so that’s why i’m looking at the 400 series. I know the 400 has more power, but since i already have a 660, i can always use that saw instead. I’m more inclined to go after the 400.1 since it’s lighter weight.

As for the 440 and 441 saws…i never used a 441, but i did buy a brand new MS440 Magnum when stihl rereleased them for the very last time in the US. I was thoroughly underwhelmed with that saw. I bucked up about 4 cords of wood with it and then promptly sold it on craigslist (which was an absolute hilarious story in itself). I then went back to my deal and bought a new 362R and 660R and all was right in my world again.

The 440,460,660 where all turds that where a generation behind Husky at that point.