Call me crazy....

[RandyMac]

Ok, so I probably should have been a little more descriptive when I made my first post. I wasnt trying to tell you guys how to cut a tree, I was more offering the way I do it to hear some constructive criticism. I read it and can see how it was taken in the wrong light.

What I should have said, is there ever a time falling a tree that doesnt require a wedge? Or should you use one all the time? I know you wouldnt use a wedge on a sapling, so there is some line of threshold at play.

when in doubt, jam one in, give a whack or watch it spin



oh bless me, forgot the pitcher

 

[madhatte]

What I should have said, is there ever a time falling a tree that doesnt require a wedge?

Ain't a one of us would wedge if we didn't have to. Throwing one in the kerf for a safety is a no-brainer, but that's not the same as pounding your brains out for no reason. Plus, you'd be surprised how many ways there are to play the Physics game to get things where they don't want to go even without wedges. Point is, none of us believe in a "one-size-fits-all" method of putting a stem on the ground. Every tree is its own puzzle.

 

[RandyMac]

c'mon give granny a kiss

 

[Gologit]

Ok, so I probably should have been a little more descriptive when I made my first post. I wasnt trying to tell you guys how to cut a tree, I was more offering the way I do it to hear some constructive criticism. I read it and can see how it was taken in the wrong light.

What I should have said, is there ever a time falling a tree that doesnt require a wedge? Or should you use one all the time? I know you wouldnt use a wedge on a sapling, so there is some line of threshold at play.

Fair enough.

 

[RandyMac]

I feel sooo hawt just now!

 

[RandyMac]

shooting for grandiose, getting obscure or obtuse

 

[allstihl]

damn. guess i just wasted the money i just spent on a case of wedges from baileys

ps ive found that wedges are cheaper than bars.

 

[RandyMac]

damn. guess i just wasted the money i just spent on a case of wedges from baileys

I take offence at that

 

[allstihl]

as you should

 

[RandyMac]

I know what you are thinking...






























and you are right

 

[RandyMac]

ok ok got it now, grandiose it is, byte me

 

[Fish]

Well I'll use a wedge just to keep from pinching too, especially with a tricky breeze going.

I am just a novice, but found a good value of the wedges early on....

And when on the ground too, but that may be from my Newtonian perspective......

 

[slowp]

Well, i prob. wouldnt even attempt a tree like that. Theres nothing like these circumstances I have around here, but...

I take it you would be clearing from the bottom of the hill up, so you would obviously be dropping it strait downhill.

Since I cant see the upper part of the tree, I somewhat assume it does go strait from where the picture leaves off. So, I would do a humbolt cut so the tree didnt pop off the stump and go airborne down the hill, and then finish the back cut with.... WEDGES!!!:hmm3grin2orange:

Wrong answer. Go to the back of the class and study yarding systems and directional falling. You're an example why most faller wannabes start out as a rigging rat. The tree needs to be felled so the butt, which is much smaller than what Randy likes, is pointing towards the corridor. The corridor is a clearing that is a straight line going from the yarder to a tree big enough to use for a tailhold (which always pulls over on Axmen). The corridor is 10 to 12 feet wide.

Logs are pulled into the corridor by the carriage and then the carriage rides on the skyline and the logs go up or down the corridor.

[video=youtube;qFkx6jbks0k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFkx6jbks0k&feature=share&list=UU9mFXlXjEJvJoCImQvFXVSg[/video]

 

[logging22]

ok ok got it now, grandiose it is, byte me

Randy, your bar is upside down. Just sayin.

 

[slowp]

[video=youtube;PecwCY0aHG8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PecwCY0aHG8&feature=share&list=UU9mFXlXjEJvJoCImQvFXVSg[/video]

 

[madhatte]

The tree needs to be felled so the butt, which is much smaller than what Randy likes, is pointing towards the corridor.

OP: note that this also applies to skidder operations. You gotta be able to move the tree to the landing.

 

[slowp]

OP: note that this also applies to skidder operations. You gotta be able to move the tree to the landing.

Without causing the log to get hung up on other trees. Read my post about jackstrawing again please.

Here is what a skyline corridor looks like from the landing sometimes.
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And this is what a Faller did. A real professional job. He has no problem finding work.
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[ReggieT]

AWESOME THREAD!opcorn:opcorn:

Look man. If you wanna ask a cutter or a logger a question you don't start off acting like you're the pro. You won't get his respect hence the corresponding response. Such as the ones you've gotten. Even a pro whose been cuttin 30 years doesn't announce his experience that way. You can just tell by the way he talks and acts.

 

[Cedarkerf]

My first cut for pay job was about 2 acres of 24-32" doug firs to be yarded by a cat when I had them all down and bucked. I got em all down and limbed and bucked. Pay day arrived and the cat showed up and some interesting language was used talking about my pile of pick up sticks. I had used the fall where they want to fall method to acheive the pick up sticks pile. Learned a hole bunch about falling trees in line with the lead to make skidding a whole lot easier and more productive. He even still paid me the original agreed pay.The cat guy was sympathetic and gave me another shot at a small job and was so much happier with my work after I had used wedges to line up all the felling in a reasonabaly straight line. I still had some criss crosses but low experience and wedges dont work magic.

And yes I drop trees with out wedges if they dont need em.

 

[hardpan]

I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny

I was just about to lose the images of Caroline, the trucker with striped panties and you had to do this.