Since there have been several folks asking about a C-N-D's for a first chipper, there is one on ebay now. It's a 16" with a Ford 330 V8. We always used the 300 CI Ford inline six's on ours and they would take 8" diameter wood with no problem. Anyway, the seller is asking $2500 and there are no bids with 2 days left. It's near Moline Ill, Joe.