Crappy Stihl Cylinder - Looks like ChiCom Garbage!!!

[THALL10326]

Why? This thread is about stihl's quality (or lack thereof), not Ford's. Changing the subject is a THALL tactic...



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Jimmy isn't preaching much anymore is he, hmmmmmmmmmm

 

[bookerdog]

In case anybody doesn't know, Husky also has a factory in Brazil. Maybe they made the cylinder for Stihl. LOL

BTW, last year I got in the last four 55's that I will probably ever see from Husky. The box looked a little different, took a closer look and they were "made in Brazil" They seemed fine and are all still running as far as I know.

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But the 55 isn't considered a pro grade saw.

 

[blsnelling]

Timberwolf posted about this with pictures months ago. Nobody even paid much attention to it. I think you (Brad) even commented on this stuff over at the other site. T sling'r commented about it too a long time ago. Now we got 20 pages of this stuff and it is the first time anyone ever heard about it.

I was just a little more blunt about it with my thread title and first post wording. It was indeed my intent to draw attention to this poor quality that is being seen all too often. I expect and demand better than that when I pay good money for something.

 

[Woodie]

I'll comment on it!

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Pretty frustrating!

But how were the cylinders??


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[THALL10326]

Okay...so is stihl doing the honest thing and discounting the saws that come with the garbage jugs?

I don't think it's fair to pass off a pro-grade saw with a crap-grade jug, so I'm sure stihl is now offering two separate models at two separate prices.

Right?

Don't pat stihl on the back for 'selling more than Mahle can produce' when stihl turns around and supplies a cylinder that looks like it was cast and machined in a high-school shop class.


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Awww did I pop your bubble. What are they suppose to do, shut down till the cylinders show up, you worked at Ford and you of all people know it doesn't work that way. No product to sell means what Woodie??

 

[Woodie]

Jimmy isn't preaching much anymore is he, hmmmmmmmmmm

No, but God help us all you are...


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[PA Plumber]

But how were the cylinders??


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Don't know.

Starting to get a little used to it...

If I don't smell oil when I shut it down, I know it's time to add another quart!

 

[Woodie]

Awww did I pop your bubble. What are they suppose to do, shut down till the cylinders show up?

Yes.

(Or make some decent castings themselves.)

(Or sell the crap model at a discount.)

It comes down to ethics, Tommy.

Some companies have them, some don't.


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[THALL10326]

No, but God help us all you are...


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Haha, Woodie you didn't answer my question, what happens when there is no product to sell or when products don't sell, you of all people should know. If you find it hard to accept Stihl hasn't had a lay off yet in these hard times now you know why, they do what they have to do to prevent that. If it means they gotta go elsewhere to get the parts to keep the product moving so be it, jobs are more important than this little tiny crowd we have in here. I commend them, wouldn't you??

 

[blsnelling]

OK, I have an idea how to resolve this in a timely manner for my customer. My dealer said it may be 2-4 weeks before the rep will be back in his store to check this out. So, in the mean time, I'm going to check with bcorradi and see if he has any more of the 44.7mm OEM top ends. If he does, I will purchase that on my dime, port it, and return the saw to it's owner. He owes me nothing more than he has already paid.

But even better than that. One of you diehard Stihl guys ought to step up and buy this perfectly good P&C for what the replacement costs me, $85. I mean, it has only had a couple tanks of fuel through it. It's the same as new. Besides, there nothing wrong with it? Right? Come on now, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[Paul001]

Yes.

(Or make some decent castings themselves.)

(Or sell the crap model at a discount.)

It comes down to ethics, Tommy.

Some companies have them, some don't.


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Having grown up in that part of the country, the automotive industry and particularly the Union's haven't a clue about Ethics...

 

[blsnelling]

Haha, Woodie you didn't answer my question, what happens when there is no product to sell or when products don't sell, you of all people should know. If you find it hard to accept Stihl hasn't had a lay off yet in these hard times now you know why, they do what they have to do to prevent that. If it means they gotta go elsewhere to get the parts to keep the product moving so be it, jobs are more important than this little tiny crowd we have in here. I commend them, wouldn't you??

Sounds like situational ethics to me. The end justifies the means. Not!

 

[Woodie]

Haha, Woodie you didn't answer my question, what happens when there is no product to sell or when products don't sell, you of all people should know. If you find it hard to accept Stihl hasn't had a lay off yet in these hard times now you know why, they do what they have to do to prevent that. If it means they gotta go elsewhere to get the parts to keep the product moving so be it, jobs are more important than this little tiny crowd we have in here. I commend them, wouldn't you??

Tom, I think this thread wouldn't have gone to 50 bazillion pages if you and a few others would quit trying to shift the focus off of stihl's mediocre quality.

You can defend it any way you want to, but in the end, stihl's been caught with its chaps down.

If you stihlheads would simply admit that fact, like the two Brads and Erick and many others have, this wouldn't be going so poorly for you guys.


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[spike60]

Okay...so is stihl doing the honest thing and discounting the saws that come with the garbage jugs?

I don't think it's fair to pass off a pro-grade saw with a crap-grade jug, so I'm sure stihl is now offering two separate models at two separate prices.

Right?

Don't pat stihl on the back for 'selling more than Mahle can produce' when stihl turns around and supplies a cylinder that looks like it was cast and machined in a high-school shop class.


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This is actually very true, and a very valid point. Cylinders from Brazil as opposed to China doesn't exactly let Stihl off the hook here. Knowing that cylinder doesn't come from China doesn't make the pictures look any better, does it? And Stihl's decision to use cylinders from Brazil when they run out of the Mahles in order to keep the line moving isn't exactly a noble move on their part.

How about this scenario: We got two saws here, one with the regular Mahle cylinder and one with the Brazilion one when we ran out of the Mahles. They're both the same price. Which one do YOU want?

 

[Tzed250]

OK, I have an idea how to resolve this in a timely manner for my customer. My dealer said it may be 2-4 weeks before the rep will be back in his store to check this out. So, in the mean time, I'm going to check with bcorradi and see if he has any more of the 44.7mm OEM top ends. If he does, I will purchase that on my dime, port it, and return the saw to it's owner. He owes me nothing more than he has already paid.

But even better than that. One of you diehard Stihl guys ought to step up and buy this perfectly good P&C for what the replacement costs me, $85. I mean, it has only had a couple tanks of fuel through it. It's the same as new. Besides, there nothing wrong with it? Right? Come on now, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

You made the accusation, the burden of proof lies with you. Put it on your 260 and test it to failure.

Report back when you have solid data.

 

[blsnelling]

You made the accusation, the burden of proof lies with you. Put it on your 260 and test it to failure.

Report back when you have solid data.

No, no, no. You're the one that said it was perfectly fine with no defects. You need to buy this P&C and prove it. My point was that the quality sucks and I've already proven that with my pics.:greenchainsaw:

 

[joatmon]

Space its like this, remember Jimmy Swaggart preaching stay away from those whores or you will go to hell, remember that. Think of Woodie as Jimmy Swaggart, he knows exactly what I'm talking about and the shoe fits perfect, yeah its ruff but hey its Woodie,LOLOLOL

Tommie,

My good man, you told us that Woodie is like Jimmy Swaggart, so Space is like ........, gee, who's left in this story.

Just askin',

Joat

 

[epicklein22]

Just port it and sell it. Once you port it, what is gonna be wrong besides the little chip?

 

[Paul001]

No, no, no. You're the one that said it was perfectly fine with no defects. You need to buy this P&C and prove it. My point was that the quality sucks and I've already proven that with my pics.:greenchainsaw:

Honestly, there's no question as to the lack of quality as shown in those pic's. Least to folks like you and I. On the other hand, Stihl ultimately makes the decision as to if that cylinder meets their QC specs or not.

I suspect if I had pulled that cylinder out of a box to install on a customers saw and attempted to send it back...well I'm not sure if they would credit us or not.

Fortunately, I've not had to face that issue yet. I'm doing 5-10 P & C's a week for along time and have yet to see one that looks like that.

Edit: Actually there isn't a question, with that chip, it would be returned, period.

 

[joatmon]

OK, I have an idea how to resolve this in a timely manner for my customer. My dealer said it may be 2-4 weeks before the rep will be back in his store to check this out. So, in the mean time, I'm going to check with bcorradi and see if he has any more of the 44.7mm OEM top ends. If he does, I will purchase that on my dime, port it, and return the saw to it's owner. He owes me nothing more than he has already paid.

But even better than that. One of you diehard Stihl guys ought to step up and buy this perfectly good P&C for what the replacement costs me, $85. I mean, it has only had a couple tanks of fuel through it. It's the same as new. Besides, there nothing wrong with it? Right? Come on now, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

SOLD!

Brad,

We've dealt before, so you know I'm a man of my word. Cash, check, or money order? I'll await a PM with the toal because I'll pay shipping.

Joat

PS: Ever sell anything in twelve minutes?