Crappy Stihl Cylinder - Looks like ChiCom Garbage!!!

[2000ssm6]

Did I say 2008 or did I say within the last year. Its 4 month into 2009

You said within the last year. I got a 211 made in that time that runs like a raped ape, must have a cylinder that was "a mistake and doesn't look good"???

 

[bookerdog]

Nope, on top of the rug, don't want to mess up that nice hardwood floor.

did you get rug burn

 

[bookerdog]

You said within the last year. I got a 211 made in that time that runs like a raped ape, must have a cylinder that was "a mistake and doesn't look good"???

It might who knows.

 

[bookerdog]

A mistake that didn't look good, hahahahahaa. Ya'll will never win but ya did put up a good fight.

So ya amitted it twice now. LOLOLOLOLOLO

 

[Woodie]

Hey Book,

How long you think Skipper and Gilligan will keep this up?

Sincerely,
Woodie

 

[2000ssm6]

It might who knows.

Oh, now it might, LOL. You guys are a riot.

 

[2000ssm6]

So ya amitted it twice now. LOLOLOLOLOLO

And? I'm missing the point...

 

[PB]

Well boys, while you are going round and round I am going home to enjoy a cold beer with the future Mrs.

 

[bookerdog]

Hey Book,

How long you think Skipper and Gilligan will keep this up?

Sincerely,
Woodie

Well woodie I don't know. I will be here though to protect the public.

 

[bookerdog]

And? I'm missing the point...

huh? DA

 

[bookerdog]

Well boys, while you are going round and round I am going home to enjoy a cold beer with the future Mrs.

congrats on the beer. O and the future miss to

 

[Woodie]

How long you think Skipper and Gilligan will keep this up?

Well woodie I don't know. I will be here though to protect the public.

Yeah...they're never gonna get off the island.



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[2000ssm6]

huh? DA

Huh? CS

 

[2000ssm6]

Yeah...they're never gonna get off the island.



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And yet you stihl stay in the closet, LOLOLOL.

 

[ericjeeper]

beg for rep?

Is this a good place to beg for rep?
Otherwise this topic has went totally out of reality.

 

[joatmon]

Is it a 44mm or 44.7mm ?...it should be 44.7mm

Brad,

Is this cylinder (TMTACITW) a 44.7 mm or a 44 mm? The change documentation is dated 12.2007, so a 2008 buy would make this questionable.

Thanks,

Joat

 

[joatmon]

Is this a good place to beg for rep?
Otherwise this topic has went totally out of reality.

Rep sent!

 

[2000ssm6]

Is this a good place to beg for rep?
Otherwise this topic has went totally out of reality.

Yup, rep sent.

 

[Taxmantoo]

I wonder who stands behinds the modded saws when they come unwound at 15k, I wouldn't want one if my lively hood depended on it.

Several guys here run modded saws because it's their livelihood.
Seems like I recall one guy saying that cutting an extra load of logs in a day puts an extra $80 in his pocket, and the mods pay for themselves in half a week.

 

[belgian]

Dang you heathens, it took me more than an hour to catch up with the latest breaking news about Stihl quality....


I've spent a ton of money on good quality equipment in my life and expect value for my bucks. From a functional point of view, Tzed and others may be right as to the performance of the cylinder being the major issue, but judging by the obvious poor quality of that cast, there's enough suspicion in my mind to doubt the quality and longevity of that cylinder.

If you buy a top quality wrench for example, it may still have an ideal functionality, but if the casting is poor with a very bad finish, you'd have a hard time justifying the price and the quality.

That cylinder is an embarrassement for the Stihl brand, period, and I don't care wheather it's made in China, Germany or Brasil. If I found one like that on any of my pro saws, I'd deposit it personally at the Stihl front door in Waiblingen with a note that they just lost a loyal customer.


Spike's post is dead on.

I've got as many buddies on this site that are Stihl guys as I do Husky and Jonny guys, so truthfully, I'm not enjoying this thread too much. (But I'm sure glad that it's not a Husky cylinder that's in question.) But I do have a few points I want to make.

That cylinder is an embarassment, and the real hard-core Stihl guys that are trying to defend it by saying it would run OK, sound at best evasive, and at worse, just plain silly. There are a lot of Stihl guys on the other hand that are not too biased to call it as they see it. If this was Husky cylinder I would just cringe. I would not really be surprised to see stuff like this cropping up on some of the less expensive homeowner saws, regardless of brand. But on a pro saw, that costs more, but is outperformed by it's chief competitors, anyone with an open mind has to say, "Hey, wait a minute!" It may run, but for how long? I can't conceive of something like that holdng up like all of the 031's and 028's that are still out there.

A lot of conclusions are being drawn based on that cylinder. There are apparently some other examples, but whether this can be considered indicative of Stihl's current definition of "pro quality" is a question that cannot be answered based on just a few examples.

The real smoking gun, if there is one, hasn't been found yet. And that is the answer to this question: Has Stihl decided to source P&C manufacturing, including for some of their pro saws, to China? Yes or no. (A lot of companies are doing this crap now a days, and they try to smooth over the negative reaction to the word China, by saying, "But it's our factory". BULLCRAP!!!)

If the answer is no, and I hope it is, then there are probably just a few bad cylinders out there and they need to tighten up a bit on their quality control. I just can't picture a company like Stihl accepting quality like that. I get aftermarket P&C sets, (Forester), that look way better than that thing on Brad's bench.

If the answer is yes, then IMO it is a huge blunder on their part, and they are in the process of blowing it big time. If the answer is yes, then how do they justify the premium pricing? If they have decided to go that route, then it is a classic, short term gain approach akin to the short sighted nonsense that ruined both McCulloch and Homelite.

And one more thought: We Husky and Jonny guys shouldn't gloat over this because if Stihl gets away with it, we could be next.