curious about pricing

[Treeman14]

I suudenly have a craving for popcorn. BBL.

 

[treeseer]

1. I don't know what caulk boots are.

2. If they are required for ALL clearance work insurance, ok,MAYBE that is true, (can oneeyedjack confirm that with a quote from the policy?) but that has nothing to do with non-clearance work, which is all we're talking about on this thread I (and on this forum, for the most part).

3. I don't know what a biach is, but I know I do not need one, thanks anyway.

4. To all the bottom feeders pandering to post-storm hysteria by cutting down every tree that worries some Nervous Nellie, please stop pandering to irrational fear. Swim to the surface and Save Trees Now. Be an arborist, the water's fine!

5. I like my popcorn with sea salt and no butter, how about you guys?

 

[Treeman14]

Can you spurless climb with caulks? No you can't, listen up Ape Boy, I know guys who are awesome climbers and ISA certified that climb with spurs all the time. I can pound trees down around powerlines fast, can you? Anyways, if anyone out there can climb with caulk boots or can answer the question honestly then step up.

Forgive my rudeness, I neglected to answer your question. Although I have no desire, nor see any compelling reason to, I am quite certain I could climb spurless with caulk boots. As for your claim of "awesome" climbers who are ISA certified and use spurs all the time, Well, they should have their certification revoked since they are violating the code of ethics to which they agreed upon becoming certified. And yes, I "can pound trees down around powerlines fast" (I am EHAP certified), but I choose not to. I simply call the local utility and they send out some underpaid hack (much like yourself, I'm sure) to pound it down for me. FOR FREE! Of course it does take twice as long to clean up their clusterf**k of a mess since they don't know how to dismantle a tree in any kind of orderly or efficient fashion. They simply "pound it down."

 

[lxt]

clearance,

what are caulk boots?
I worked line clearance for years & never heard of caulk boots. They`re not a requirement for the utility i worked for "Duquesne Light Co." what do they do? just curious. Be safe take Care LXT...................

 

[clearance]

Treeseer, I no longer work utility, I climb trees in the bush, windfirming, that is removing limbs and topping or just topping them so they don't blow over into creeks and other riparian areas. Caulk boots have about 25 spikes on each sole, so you can walk on logs safely, they have to be worn in the bush, like Jak says, the law. We walk on felled logs quite a lot to get to our trees, with caulks your feet almost stick to them. If you have never seen what is on the ground after an old growth stand is levelled you might have a hard time understanding this. Sometimes you are walking a log 10' of the ground, over half busted branches you could be impaled on if you slipped and fell. These trees we climb are tough, many tops have been ripped of by the wind and trees sidelimbed by falling trees etc. in the past, they can take a spurring. We are doing something good for the enviroment, you should be praising me.

 

[xtremetrees]

Is that why your prices are so cheap to cover all big equiptment, small fry cant compete

 

[woodchux]

"Can you spurless climb with caulks?"

body thrust or pantin

 

[userdude]

I simply call the local utility and they send out some underpaid hack (much like yourself, I'm sure) to pound it down for me. FOR FREE! Of course it does take twice as long to clean up their clusterf**k of a mess since they don't know how to dismantle a tree in any kind of orderly or efficient fashion."

That's not cool Treeman. I work utility and we don't work anything like that. Besides the power lines overhead, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in my crews' work habits/ethics and yours. Thanks.

 

[Treeman14]

These trees we climb are tough, many tops have been ripped of by the wind and trees sidelimbed by falling trees etc. in the past, they can take a spurring.

Yea, that makes sense. The trees have already taken a beating, let's put a few hundred holes in the bark. You're a true environmentalist clarence. Bravo.

 

[clearance]

That's not cool Treeman. I work utility and we don't work anything like that. Besides the power lines overhead, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in my crews' work habits/ethics and yours. Thanks.

Userdude, awesome Bubbles picture, he is the best guy in the park, nevermind people like Treeman, they couldn't do utility work, too much hard work and danger involved for them. He is EHAP certified, wow, whats that a one day course?. He gets real utility guys to do it, why? cause he can't.

 

[Treeman14]

That's not cool Treeman. I work utility and we don't work anything like that. Besides the power lines overhead, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in my crews' work habits/ethics and yours. Thanks.

No, it's NOT cool. I'm speaking from my own experience with the utility crews in the Tampa Metro area, specifically TECO and Progress Energy, fka Florida Power Corp. I congratulate you for doing the right thing regarding ethics and work practices. I can only hope that there are more like you in the field and in the coming generations. Keep up the good work. I apologize for stereotyping the utility guys.

 

[treeseer]

clearance, I'll be glad to praise what you do in the bush. If you stop trying to bring bush methods into town, I won't try to bring our city ways into the country.

userdude, I don't know what it is you're using, but judging by your sig you've been dipping into Mr. Limbaugh's candy jar.

reb, yeah you kinda busted me on hip okrasee, but here in Rolly they didn't use to know what an arborist is. They called any tree guy a treecudder (actual pronunciation). It's getting better, slowly...

 

[userdude]

No, it's NOT cool. I'm speaking from my own experience with the utility crews in the Tampa Metro area, specifically TECO and Progress Energy, fka Florida Power Corp. I congratulate you for doing the right thing regarding ethics and work practices. I can only hope that there are more like you in the field and in the coming generations. Keep up the good work. I apologize for stereotyping the utility guys.

I appreciate that.

 

[userdude]

userdude, I don't know what it is you're using, but judging by your sig you've been dipping into Mr. Limbaugh's candy jar..

LOL...no Rush Bimbo antics here...clean as they come. Besides, he's a lib in my book.

 

[kennertree]

Userdude, awesome Bubbles picture, he is the best guy in the park, nevermind people like Treeman, they couldn't do utility work, too much hard work and danger involved for them. He is EHAP certified, wow, whats that a one day course?. He gets real utility guys to do it, why? cause he can't.

In my expierence, and ive done both utility and residential work, utility guys lack the skills to do residential work that is why they are doing utility work. Not trying to make a generalization here but that has been my expierence. Yes, there is more danger involved doing utility work but in my expeirence doing utility work it was a breeze compared to residential.

 

[clearance]

In my expierence, and ive done both utility and residential work, utility guys lack the skills to do residential work that is why they are doing utility work. Not trying to make a generalization here but that has been my expierence. Yes, there is more danger involved doing utility work but in my expeirence doing utility work it was a breeze compared to residential.

Can't have done much utility work, or any tough utility trees if you think it's a breeze. I have done lots of res. removals, say I rip a gutter of with a branch, no big deal, if you screw up around power it can be over for you, right then and there, no second chance. Res. climbers deserve respect, as long as they don't think they are Gods gift to the industry, lots of what you do isn't easy.

 

[Treeman14]

nevermind people like Treeman, they couldn't do utility work, too much hard work and danger involved for them.

Again, I'm speaking from my own observations of utility crews in my area only. I'm sure there are some hard-working utility crews, somewhere. To imply that the work is too hard is almost too funny to reply. I do more work in an hour than most of them do all day, sometimes all week. As for the danger, I'm well aware of it and choose to let someone else assume that risk. There was a time, back in my more macho days, when I did not hesitate to climb and cut near power lines, thinking it was uncool to let someone else "do my job." But after having an inexperienced crane operator swing my sorry butt into distribution lines, I have rethought that philosophy and now willingly stay away from hot lines. Getting fried is uncool too.

 

[clearance]

As for the danger, I'm well aware of it and choose to let someone else assume that risk.

There you go, I need not say another thing about this man, he said it all, himself.

 

[kennertree]

Can't have done much utility work, or any tough utility trees if you think it's a breeze. I have done lots of res. removals, say I rip a gutter of with a branch, no big deal, if you screw up around power it can be over for you, right then and there, no second chance. Res. climbers deserve respect, as long as they don't think they are Gods gift to the industry, lots of what you do isn't easy.

Trust me, ive done plenty of tough utility removals. As a whole, utility is much easier. As I said, can be alot more dangerous throwing in the electricity factor. I respect utility workers, i have a fear of electricity and hate to be around it, but to say that a residential worker has to call in a utility worker to take a tree down because the residential climber cant do it is nuts.

 

[Treeman14]

There you go, I need not say another thing about this man, he said it all, himself.

I do appreciate THAT, but I'm quite sure it will turn out to be untrue.

BTW, even though I'm a treeman, arborist, treecudder, whatever, I'm not stupid. Why would I put myself at risk when I can can get you to do it for free? Duh?