Dang reds

[056kid]

Its a beautiful day today but im not working.(cause of last nights so called severe weather) Nobody around here works in the rain, mostly because they are not set up quite rite for moisture and mud. I only know of one dude around here that bothers to wear a ''real'' set of boots, they all wear thoes wall mart high tops. I wear knee high caulks. I wish i could just show all my east coast buddies what a REAL tree is, and what a REAL load is, what real boots are, what a real stump looks like. They see a Humboldt and tell me that i am doing it wrong!! They just dont know!!!
I think half way because of boose, the non west coast version of logging is just half ass money making.

 

[Nuzzy]

But how do you really feel?

 

[056kid]

relaxed

 

[sILlogger]

Its a beautiful day today but im not working.(cause of last nights so called severe weather) Nobody around here works in the rain, mostly because they are not set up quite rite for moisture and mud. I only know of one dude around here that bothers to wear a ''real'' set of boots, they all wear thoes wall mart high tops. I wear knee high caulks. I wish i could just show all my east coast buddies what a REAL tree is, and what a REAL load is, what real boots are, what a real stump looks like. They see a Humboldt and tell me that i am doing it wrong!! They just dont know!!!
I think half way because of boose, the non west coast version of logging is just half ass money making.

well...somebody is on their high horse aren't they..are u running a skidder? if so how do u expect to get the logs out when it is muddy as all h*ll? you can mud them out....and then the landowner will run you off for cutting ruts...or if they don't then you have to high a dozer to come back and fix them....or spend a half a day-day fixing all of the skid roads with the skidder. so what does a REAL load look like? a real stump? and what are real boots? you seem to pretty much have it all lined out...its a different ballgame in the hardwood then in the softwoods.

 

[2dogs]

Reds?

What are you logging back there? Pics?

 

[abohac]

well...somebody is on their high horse aren't they..are u running a skidder? if so how do u expect to get the logs out when it is muddy as all h*ll? you can mud them out....and then the landowner will run you off for cutting ruts...or if they don't then you have to high a dozer to come back and fix them....or spend a half a day-day fixing all of the skid roads with the skidder. so what does a REAL load look like? a real stump? and what are real boots? you seem to pretty much have it all lined out...its a different ballgame in the hardwood then in the softwoods.

I was kinda wondering what all that stuff looked like myself? This guy seems to know a lot more than I do.Hell, I thought I had real boots, and I was sure I knew what a stump was.

 

[056kid]

To make it simple, No I am a faller. Rain is not a factor for anyone but our truckers right now. We are on a yarding job so all of the skidding is on flat gravle. If any banks where to give the D6 will take care of that. Point is, we could have pulled and cut all day and been very productive and not too destructive.
You are right the game varies everywhere you go, just like you probably never cut any mountain tracs.
And im definently not on any horse. Just want to make play money!!

 

[sILlogger]

To make it simple, No I am a faller. Rain is not a factor for anyone but our truckers right now. We are on a yarding job so all of the skidding is on flat gravle. If any banks where to give the D6 will take care of that. Point is, we could have pulled and cut all day and been very productive and not too destructive.
You are right the game varies everywhere you go, just like you probably never cut any mountain tracs.
And im definently not on any horse. Just want to make play money!!

when u say yarding job..do you mean a cable yarder? nope ive never cut a "mountain job" but ive cut on 50-60* slopes...have to plant your heels in just to keep from sliding off the hill

 

[056kid]

Ya its an old Detroit powered Madill cable yarder with a green eagle carrige hangin on the cable, and when i say old i mean old!! We are cutting on Potts Mtn, near Paint bank West Virgrnia.
You guys know that i am not coming down on any of you, im just gettin poor and i hate that.

I would love to take pics but there is no time. I think ive posted like 2 pics since i joined!

 

[hammerlogging]

056, I know exactly of what you speak, which is why I have quit for 8 months to do a little session of giving back (and why I've had a little time to correspond here). Couldn't find a crew that maintained the level of professionalism, day in and day out logging. I'd cut and cut for a crew for 2-3 good months, something would always happen- wrong tract for the season, unnecessary equipment breakdowns, and the east coasters get all nervous if you (me, cuttter) get to far ahead so I'd get stopped too. Over and over. Find a new crew, cut like hell, some stupind shutdown, and time for a new crew. The poor status of the profession in the Apps. provides great opportunity for those of us with great potential, but I chose to step back for a few to reorient my direction. I will be back in the woods in 2-3 weeks, maybe have to do some residential tree care (boring to me, cleanup sucks) to subsidize my logging ambitions, but the only way I've been able to confirm that I will be able to define by destiny and assure goal achievement is to run my own gig.Might take a few years, but I'll be running a yarder before long too. I really just want to keep cutting but too reliant and "the reds" to make the living I'm capable of, so got to do it for myself (and with my new business partner). Our territories will be crossing when I move north to SW VA.
But, ain't a fan of the humboldt on big hardwood, poplar ok, but not big oak- but as long as they go where you want and you don't bust wood and you're safe, go for it.
Hang in there. I love cutting that steep ground, love it, prefer it to mountain tops or flatland, can work a tract much more systematically, even if its a lot of trudgingup and down the hill. Love it, and the views. I just drop a tank full of stems, then fill and limb and top, and do it a again. A wonderful life, contract faller. Can't wait to be back. Thank god its soon.

 

[hammerlogging]

Oh yea, and keep in mind, the grass is always greener. The west coast guys I've cut with talk about the big money, short days and so forth out there. Well, why were they cutting in the east coast? My guess is unless you've been around for a long time, long enough to get on one of the good crews, you'd run in to the same deal most anywhere. Many of the heli dudes I've met, for example, weren't all that, to say the least. Just something to keep me in the east i guess, to my southern wife's delight.

 

[056kid]

good times stupid times

Steeps with views, O ya. Fall a tank limb a half, O ya. Drop 8 loads and its ''You got timber everywhere son'' so now im doin other peoples jobs instead of running my drug of choice. lets let a gallon of oil leak out of the grapple on the skidder and then ##### when we have to spend 40 some on a bucket! I can go on and on and on but its pointless ha!
I knew someone else would have some similar feelings.
I too have aspirations of runnin my own show, need to do some more book learnin first though.