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What's wrong with working under a threat of rain?

Guess what.... if there is a threat of rain it means.... it ain't raining!!! Are you gonna make this guy beg to get a tree or two pruned? Where is your heart?
 
I don't work in the rain unless it's an emergency, and I rarely do those.
If I'm wearing spurs, I'll perserve as best as possible. But if I'm trimming, as soon as it gets slick I hasta la vista it, baby.
 
No begging just talk numbers. The way to mans heart isn't just through his stomach. This guy isn't going to get rained out just to have to drive an hour home.
 
I disagree with ya there Rock. I used to double croutch like crazy, but since my climbing has progressed I doing a lot more walking out on one line, It is a good technique for new climbers just starting to feel the ropes.

Kenn
 
Im not saying we disagree, Im just saying that I used to do a lot of that when I was a less experienced climber. I cant remember the last time I double crotched. I used to do it a lot, and yes it does take a little extra time. But that was the only way I felt comfortable at the time walkin out on some of those big leaders. Maybe my Cajones have gotten a little bigger. But its still a good thing for a Newbie to know. Every thing is progressive Amigo.

Kenn
 
I have used a double tie in once, maybe twice in the last year. I think the issues come when you use it as a daily crutch. Then it is time to explore other techniques.

Rain:confused: Yeah, it bites but this is Germany and I wouldn't work some months if I were afraid of rain. It does slow productivity and we try to save special jobs (fellings,etc) for rain days.

If I drive an hour to the job site, some work is going to get done.

Beech trees in the rain can be a PITA (double tie in ;) )
 
Go high and think about SRT

I have been using SRT for about 6 months now, and while I may use my flip line when I am cutting, I find the 2nd tie-in usually not needed.

I, however will have the flip around something when the chain saw is running. One can never rule out the possibility of a mistake.

I am no spring chicken (or young Gopher, for that matter:), but if you are open minded, give SRT a look. It is not the fastest way up a tree, but it is easy on the body, and I believe time saving once in the tree, one tie in or not.

Over.

Gopher:D
 
Sorry to derail the thread but I have an SRT question since Gopher brought it up:

It is possible to work off a single line with only a friction hitch or are ascenders and descenders necessary to be safe and efficient with SRT?


Thanks.
 
I've been working on SRT for a long time now. You'll have to experiment to find a hitch combination that works for you. Getting the perfect hitch is harder on SRT because all of your load is on the hitch.

Once again, I can't understand all of the bravado laid out here. Is it some kind of badge of dishonor to use a double tie in? Using the right technique at the right time is the sign of a skilled climber. Having an open mind will make an ordinary climber great.

Tom
 
No pic to go along with the post, Butch? Everything going alright? Do you need some pizza from Derek?
 
double tie in point

Wow,
I appreciate everyones input and opinions, especially Big Johns second response, explaining that he wasn't trying to give me sh...grief. Thanks John.
Understand that I don't use this technique every day, or every week, or even every month. I use it once in a while when I feel the need arrises. Not as a crutch but as a method to help me be more effecient. I use loop runners often and I constantly change crotches as the particular tree dictates. I've never used a second line but only the tail end of my primary lifeline and allways as a temporary stability point. I consider tying in twice as an advanced technique, not something that new climbers should be trying.
Was my original post ever answered? If you are going to tie in to a second point do you carry a second tail or do you tie in directly to your saddle with two half hitches and a taught line hitch, or perhaps a Blakes hitch. Or whatever the case may be.
For all you naysayers who are against a double tie in point just go on and read the next post.

Not always smart, but always a smartass

T
 
As I said I'm not a big fan of using my tail. On the other hand I don't anything wrong with haveing two climbing lines in the tree. Work off of one for awhile and when you get to the other side pull a second one up or already have one installed and work off that for awhile and then switch back. I just don't like haveing two tied to me at the same time. I can remember climbing an elm tree just a few years back thinking it was huge tree. I pruned the tree with another climber who had been around for years maybe 20 somewhat old school. We had 5 lines in the tree and we didn't get the whole tree done in a day. Today I could do the same tree myself in less than a day with one rope. This is the level of climbing I am talking about. You have to see to believe. As long as we're climbing we are never the best we will be.
 
It means you don't know everything. Your always learning as long as your climbin and getting even better.
 
How about this as another way of putting it
"When we get out of the glass bottles of our own egos"
That happens to be the first line of a rather obscure poem...
I think it fits here pretty well!
 

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