Drop starts

[l2edneck]

I don't like the chainsaw between the legs technique because the bar of the chainsaw is pulled towards the operators head.

Ive seen many pull "up" and not pull the compression, but on the saw it self.Now when done in hand the saw swings violently (untill you learn to pull away from compression of saw.to me its a momentum thing)took me a while to get used to startin a saw on hooks.once i learned to pull against the compression POC.I def would not encourage them to do it.Ive never mastered the between the legs method and would recommend it to the newbies.My biggest thing is CONTROL THE SAW.In cutting there are to many variables.The saw can pinch here,there.But in starting there are a few options. On big saws 066/084 i use the foot in handle an usually they are stubborn so i try to use another person.Another thing is my idle is usually set so low it wont start "idling " I grab the throttle toss the saw and go.JMO

As far as the above quote.I totally agree.But if "crotch start" is much safer then by all means teach on.

 

[TopJimmy]

I only drop start my 90cc and smaller saws, at least untill I get a saw larger than 90cc. Seriously it is the way I have always started my saws. I have tried starting on the ground, but it feels akward. Maybe "drop starting" is not quite the right term. We all seem to know what it means, but drop implies a lack of control. At least in my case, it is more like I am pushing down with my left hand while pulling up with my right. I am in control of the saw at all times. I have drop started a few while holding the rear handle. If flooded it is a good way to keep the saw a WOT while starting. Definately not as much control as holding with the left hand.

Jim

 

[Diesel JD]

I drop start everything unless it gets cranky and needs more cranking than usual. I think the danger would be when the saw is drop started, set to high idle and then hits an object causing kickback, or else the operator loses control of it and then cuts himself. I have had to be more aware of this with the bow guide since it is wider and can hit a lot more stuff. Also witha really long bar I guess you could tip out. It wasn't a problem with the 390 and 25" and only a slight problem with the 28".

 

[THALL10326]

Pros,

I am a self/manual/video/book taught chainsaw user. I always adhere to the safety recommendation of never drop starting a chainsaw. However, I have watched more than one pro arborist drop start. Not that I want to drop start my saws but I am curious if it is a common practice among pros? If it is, is it because pros are experienced enough with saw use that the practice is safe?

I drop start every saw I start. I get those same questions from customers who buy saws, why do you drop start it when your not suppose to. Answer is simple for me, the weight of the saw going down with the rope being pulled up makes it easier to crank for me.

I don't promote it but I sure as hell do it.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

I drop start every saw I start. I get those same questions from customers who buy saws, why do you drop start it when your not suppose to. Answer is simple for me, the weight of the saw going down with the rope being pulled up makes it easier to crank for me.

I don't promote it but I sure as hell do it.

Tom, drop starting ought to be easy for you and I now that we have this bulbous overweight thing called a 441 to cut with!!!:hmm3grin2orange: :biggrinbounce2: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Rspike]

You drop start your chainsaws in the Stihl dealership showroom in front of customers !!!! :bang: I thought Stihl dealers were to show customers how to use there chainsaw correct and educate the buyers !? tisk , tisk

I drop start every saw I start. I get those same questions from customers who buy saws, why do you drop start it when your not suppose to. Answer is simple for me, the weight of the saw going down with the rope being pulled up makes it easier to crank for me.

I don't promote it but I sure as hell do it.

 

[Gologit]

I drop start every saw I start. I get those same questions from customers who buy saws, why do you drop start it when your not suppose to. Answer is simple for me, the weight of the saw going down with the rope being pulled up makes it easier to crank for me.

I don't promote it but I sure as hell do it.

Well said. Unless I'm starting the bigger saws cold I usually drop start. If I'm on steep wet ground or in heavy brush or slash I might ground start or stump start . Don't make any hard and fast rules about it. Do whats safest and fits your situation. Bob

 

[manual]

You drop start your chainsaws in the Stihl dealership showroom in front of customers !!!! :bang: I thought Stihl dealers were to show customers how to use there chainsaw correct and educate the buyers !? tisk , tisk

Ditto,
That would be like selling guns and not showing any respect about safty.
for shame

 

[THALL10326]

You drop start your chainsaws in the Stihl dealership showroom in front of customers !!!! :bang: I thought Stihl dealers were to show customers how to use there chainsaw correct and educate the buyers !? tisk , tisk

I can't be bending over to start saws on the ground all day , tisk tisk

 

[manual]

I can't be bending over to start saws on the ground all day , tisk tisk

Just how many saws do you start a day?

 

[THALL10326]

Tom, drop starting ought to be easy for you and I now that we have this bulbous overweight thing called a 441 to cut with!!!:hmm3grin2orange: :biggrinbounce2: :hmm3grin2orange:

Tis is, that thing starts so easy. Used it today and runned like a PRINCE,hehe.

 

[THALL10326]

Just how many saws do you start a day?

ALOT..

 

[clearance]

Handle between your legs................Alrighty then, is this the retard thread?

 

[Rspike]

Handle between your legs................Alrighty then, is this the retard thread?

Not until U showed up. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[CaseyForrest]

Handle between your legs................Alrighty then, is this the retard thread?

Its shown in the manual as one of the options for starting your saw. I do it like that sometimes, but most of the time its a drop start.

 

[sugarbush]

I must be a retard also, I hook my right leg over the handle to and i've never been comfortable drop starting unless it's flooded, then i'm guilty of drop starting by the rear handle holding the throttle wide open.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

Handle between your legs................Alrighty then, is this the retard thread?

Ahhhhhh...........just another TOOL that needs dropped started every once in a while!!!

 

[RaisedByWolves]

Handle between your legs................Alrighty then, is this the retard thread?

You do know which end has the handle doncha?

 

[THALL10326]

I must be a retard also, I hook my right leg over the handle to and i've never been comfortable drop starting unless it's flooded, then i'm guilty of drop starting by the rear handle holding the throttle wide open.

Sugar ole feller. Hell with how we start saws as long as they start. More importantly my friend is it finnally cleared off Saturday. Look for big mators anyday now...........

 

[sugarbush]

Sugar ole feller. Hell with how we start saws as long as they start. More importantly my friend is it finnally cleared off Saturday. Look for big mators anyday now...........

your right about them saw's. i'll be looken for that giant mator but right now i'm head'n for bed. go'n to the lake in the morning, early. nite, nite.