I went to the Echo dealer today to get some Amsoil Saber. I always look to see what is used. There was an almost totally new Echo 501P for $408 . plus $22 for tax so I took it for $430 total. I think it is a good saw. It has the 3/8 chain too. Fine with me and a 20" bar. I dont think 20" is needed. A month ago a guy traded his Husky 550XP for the Echo501p . He ran a few tanks and wanted his 550Xp back. I dont know why anyone would want to trade the 550 in, I saw it and was all but new.. It was $600 on the used shelf 2 weeks ago, but I decided the last thing I need is 3 Stihls, 1 Echo and 1 Husky.... It cuts decent , has the rounded cutters but makes big chips anyway. Only thing I dont like is the bar is made in China.