Ever quote low because the job looked fun

[ozzy42]

Back on subject now.


The only time I would do a job for the thrill of it would be a quick'' zipper ''job
for a hottie.

Anything bigger than 30 minutes or so,I have to be making real money.
I don't care if it's for a sports illustrated model,,I gots to get paid.

 

[treevet]

All the fun will wear off after the first day is over and you see how much work you have done and how tired you all are.and how much you have left to do

I might consider that price in the dead of the winter as I have a crane and if I could kill it in one day and boom all the wood in trucks and drive the big pieces that are a pain to cut and split, straight to the dump (no fee dump)....

and go get a big plate of them thar french fried potaters.

 

[ropensaddle]

All the fun will wear off after the first day is over and you see how much work you have done and how tired you all are.and how much you have left to do

I might consider that price in the dead of the winter as I have a crane and if I could kill it in one day and boom all the wood in trucks and drive the big pieces that are a pain to cut and split, straight to the dump (no fee dump)....

and go get a big plate of them thar french fried potaters.

Umm hmmmm

 

[tree MDS]

Last job I bid low because it "looked like fun" involved taking down three norway maples for a guy. Bucket queen job. Thought it would be fun to bury the boys. I bid it at a day and a half, and almost made it too (damn chipper started overheating and the chip dump closed the first day). By the end of the second full day I realized that it sucks to work too cheap all over again and felt like an ass.

 

[treeman75]

I bid a job this winter and she called a couple weeks ago and ask if I would would still do it at that price I said ya. It took a day and a half and I priced it at one day, it was worth a little more. But I got her sons trees to do, two of the towns trees and another big river birch that I put good prices on. I am glad I agreed with the price.

 

[treemandan]

No.

 

[tree md]

I bid against one of my regular competitors on two medium trees that had to be picked over the house with a crane last year. The customer asked specifically for the trees to be removed with a crane (which they really needed to be). The guy I bid against put an $1100 price on it. My bid was $2200 which about a third less than I would normally have charged for them. I declined the opportunity to adjust my bid to compete with him. I refuse to remove two halfway decent sized trees from over a house with a crane for just over a thousand. Someone else can have that.

 

[treevet]

I bid against one of my regular competitors on two medium trees that had to be picked over the house with a crane last year. The customer asked specifically for the trees to be removed with a crane (which they really needed to be). The guy I bid against put an $1100 price on it. My bid was $2200 which about a third less than I would normally have charged for them. I declined the opportunity to adjust my bid to compete with him. I refuse to remove two halfway decent sized trees from over a house with a crane for just over a thousand. Someone else can have that.

You cannot (always) believe what they tell you about competitor's bids. I have caught a few of them lying to get a better price over the years.

 

[tree md]

You cannot (always) believe what they tell you about competitor's bids. I have caught a few of them lying to get a better price over the years.

No doubt about that but I saw the written estimate on this one. I couldn't believe it. Only thing I can figure is he needed to make a payment on equipment or something. Maybe he was just mad because he knew he was bidding against me, lol. We have had to bid competitively a couple of times before that. I think I had won the last one so maybe he wanted to make sure he got the one we were bidding. Whatever the case, I let him have it.

 

[tree MDS]

You cannot (always) believe what they tell you about competitor's bids. I have caught a few of them lying to get a better price over the years.

I always wonder about that when the customer comes up with some ridiculous number, and says so and so supposedly bid the job at that.

 

[tree md]

I always wonder about that when the customer comes up with some ridiculous number, and says so and so supposedly bid the job at that.

Tell them to show you a written estimate. I will only compete with written estimates when it sounds fishy... If I so choose.

 

[treevet]

I always wonder about that when the customer comes up with some ridiculous number, and says so and so supposedly bid the job at that.

just an example....3 weeks ago a guy pulls over by my job and asks for a bid on a big locust removal. I went by and called him with a 1420 bid with stump grind and no clean up on the big stump.

He says he has a 800 dollar bid and he would really rather have me do it so would I do it for 800. I said no thanks and a few days later he calls me and asks if I would go a few hun over the 800 to get it and I says no.

2 days later he calls me and tells me to go ahead with the job. We did it and got paid last week.

But I have even had them tell me another guy bid so and so and I asked the guy and was told he didn't even bid on the job.

 

[ropensaddle]

I always wonder about that when the customer comes up with some ridiculous number, and says so and so supposedly bid the job at that.

Next time do like me and sorta chuckle and when they look at ya make your lazy eye twitch and say, sir you mind if I buy the steaks and come to watch the show with ya! I have won bid this way several times comedy sells baby lol.

 

[treevet]

Next time do like me and sorta chuckle and when they look at ya make your lazy eye twitch and say, sir you mind if I buy the steaks and come to watch the show with ya! I have won bid this way several times comedy sells baby lol.

if you can make em laugh you got em.

 

[tree MDS]

if you can make em laugh you got em.

If you can tolerate them, you got em around here!

 

[murphy4trees]

1 man and a stump grinder made $1200 on Wednesday... All the chips backfilled in the hole...

and you want to make $1350 and some firewood for three days of serious climbing and rigging... How'd you get all that equipment anyhow? Not by making $450 a day... I can make $450 in a few hours with teh stump grinder..

And yes I have bid low just to get work cause it looked like fun... but you and me have a different idea of fun.. My fun is dropping a tree in one or two cuts when the competition is going for the crane...


YOU MUST BE YOUNG!!!

 

[treevet]

. My fun is dropping a tree in one or two cuts when the competition is going for the crane...

Yeah Murph.....why they even bother with those stupid cranes when they could just call you and..."one or 2 cuts" and that silly tree is on the ground. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[treemandan]

1 man and a stump grinder made $1200 on Wednesday... All the chips backfilled in the hole...

and you want to make $1350 and some firewood for three days of serious climbing and rigging... How'd you get all that equipment anyhow? Not by making $450 a day... I can make $450 in a few hours with teh stump grinder..

And yes I have bid low just to get work cause it looked like fun... but you and me have a different idea of fun.. My fun is dropping a tree in one or two cuts when the competition is going for the crane...


YOU MUST BE YOUNG!!!

And no doubt you did.

 

[treesquirrel]

and you want to make $1350 and some firewood for three days of serious climbing and rigging... How'd you get all that equipment anyhow? Not by making $450 a day... I can make $450 in a few hours with teh stump grinder..

Interpretation is everything. There are some unseen benefits to a job like this for me.

I will end up paying out the money to my crew. This is a job where they will get a lot of good training and get paid to do it. Too many jobs are easy cut and dry basic rigging exercises. This job will be damn near as good for my crew as sending them to a formal class that would cost me over 1000.00 per student plus all those hotel and travel expenses.

I don't look at it as a loss. But an opportunity to stay on my game and get my groundies some real action rather than the normal everyday pine trees and such.

450.00 in a few hours is about normal around here. Actually, last week I did a 300.00 job in less than 30 minutes. Took longer to drive to the job than to perform the work. Today was two big pines, one had to be rigged completely out and we were outta there by 2:30. 1250.00 in 7.5 hours. Yes, most of the time its all about money. I make my fair share. But every now and then I will do something like this for way less than normal.

 

[ropensaddle]

Interpretation is everything. There are some unseen benefits to a job like this for me.

I will end up paying out the money to my crew. This is a job where they will get a lot of good training and get paid to do it. Too many jobs are easy cut and dry basic rigging exercises. This job will be damn near as good for my crew as sending them to a formal class that would cost me over 1000.00 per student plus all those hotel and travel expenses.

I don't look at it as a loss. But an opportunity to stay on my game and get my groundies some real action rather than the normal everyday pine trees and such.

450.00 in a few hours is about normal around here. Actually, last week I did a 300.00 job in less than 30 minutes. Took longer to drive to the job than to perform the work. Today was two big pines, one had to be rigged completely out and we were outta there by 2:30. 1250.00 in 7.5 hours. Yes, most of the time its all about money. I make my fair share. But every now and then I will do something like this for way less than normal.

I will do jobs I want to nail for less but not so low that illegals bid higher! I sometimes want a particular job due to getting into the hood I want. Exposure jobs I will cut my price some for the free exposure and schedual for a weekend.