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fallen maple on house
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the crane that we use most of the time is basically the same as yours its a 14 ton W/63' of stick. We generally dont go over the front with it the truck starts making weird noises and it seems like the rear outriggers start getting light with a decent load so we generally call it quits when the boom is about 45degrees past the front rigger when used properly these little cranes can make your life so much easier if I ever had one built to spec it would be a triaxle with a nice log bed on it so you didn't have to have a loader come out if you doing a medium sized tree. probably a waste of money ona smaller crane but it would have its place
mr. holden wood
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I love it super j, rockin an 80's skateboard helmet, with no eye pro or ear and a smoke, get er dun. Nice job, it was only a few months ago when you came on here and was askin how to run that crane. Plenty of guys were givin ya **** and you kept yer cool the whole time. Looks like you got it figured out. Good thing you moved out east though, that crane wouldn't get ya up to the first limb of a doug fir out here.
tree md
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A little crane is better than no crane. I have a friend here who has a 12 ton with 75' of stick I believe. Can't remember, I haven't worked with him in awhile. Here in OK you can do a lot with that little crane. Trees are not generally very tall here. 65' is about average I'd say. And they get smaller the closer you get to Texas. The little truck cranes are real handy for lifting trees off of houses. Very rarely do I need one here. When I have to pick something over a house I rent a 64 ton with 150' of boom. We can usually pick from the street with it.
That being said, I'd be thrilled to death with a 12 ton truck crane.
That being said, I'd be thrilled to death with a 12 ton truck crane.
mr. holden wood
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So true, super j was posting pics of his new crane and guys were giving him a ton of a ****. Sure the bigger the better but this just shows how usefull a smaller crane can be. For this situation it was the right tool, not so much for full on killing trees though, but these days you shouldn't rely on that anyway.
Spending the day with a 23 ton 98' tomorrow suprising what a smaller crane can do and what it can get to.
tree md
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It's a balancing act. Got to get the right fit for the job. Go too small and your going to be beating yourself up all day working that little crane and it will probably end up costing you more in hours than if you had went ahead with a larger crane and knocked the job out 2 or 3 hours earlier. Go too big and you have to worry about cracking driveways or hiring extra help for flagging. Generally I like to use about a 40 ton crane with at least 95' of stick. That seems to be the most productive for the crane work I generally get.
Yoopermike
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I think the home owner is quite lucky that there was next to no damage to the house!
mattfr12
The Bulldog
smaller cranes the front stabilizer isn't as important ON LEVEL GROUND my truck doesn't have a front stabilizer and i have picked up 20k at around 15-20 feet off the front. when you get up to like a 30ton+ the trucks length just isn't enough to even hold the boom bent over at full extension drastically more weight in the boom alone. on another note i do have a front stabilizer going on mine so i can use it on more of a slope. my boom without grapple weighs around 12k i do believe i know they had to beef the front end up a lot and get it re dot certified to take the GVW up.
nice job super rep sent.
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I don't like swinging 5k over the front with our 31t, and thats with front stab. 1 part line, our high speed won't lift over 6k, low speed quits after 9600. How many parts of line were you running to get 20k off the ground?
Super, nice job getting that off the house. Some of the most challenging jobs i've done have been pulling trees off homes and power lines. Power company could care less, they just give you the next pole number. Homeowners usually bring us coffee, cake, its generally a rewarding experiance helping people like that.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
none i was picking all the way in its a knuckle boom lifted it with the hydraulics. 31t and a 15t is a lot of weight in the boom alone added. i would guess more than double. 31t requires a heavy tandem or 3 axel setup.
i would hope a 31t had 100 foot or more of boom also he's right around 60 i do believe. thats a whole bother section of boom.
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mattfr12
The Bulldog
right under 15k over 60" across at the bottom 15-16 foot long picked them both out from behind the power lines from where it was sitting i had a little over 30 foot of boom out for the second one in the picture but the truck is above grade and so i had a little advantage on not needed to much boom it weighed in pretty heavy also was close to 25 foot. probably was15-18k
im 6 foot tall in the picture and am close enough to it to touch it with my hand.
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superjunior
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where do you think I learned how to climb brotha? We were almost neighbors long time ago
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mr. holden wood
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PNW fo sure, we got bigger lace leaf maples out here and you know this. Have a great year, keep up the good work.
capacity?
what is the capacity chart of your machine with the booms retracted as in this picture. load radius looks to be around 16 feet or so. thanks, tom.
right under 15k over 60" across at the bottom 15-16 foot long picked them both out from behind the power lines from where it was sitting i had a little over 30 foot of boom out for the second one in the picture but the truck is above grade and so i had a little advantage on not needed to much boom it weighed in pretty heavy also was close to 25 foot. probably was15-18k
im 6 foot tall in the picture and am close enough to it to touch it with my hand.
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My bad, I hear crane, even knowing you run the k-boom, i automatically think wire rope.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
ya no biggie it has a two speed winch on it i dont have the balls to setup a two partline yet. i think i pick big now. did it in my lot screwing around and you can get that puppy lookin like a rainbow close to compacity with a two part.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
right thier i could lift 20k or so. thier no real science to a kboom because of the variations you can have kinda have to fiddle with it go off thier make shift load charts and do what you feel comfortable with it.
thier isnt a load chart for them like a crane because the variation of postions can be in is just more numbers than could be calculated without a super computer.
you can have 2 angles within the first 20 feet. that are different.
you hit the length right on the nose also right under 16 foot.
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mattfr12
The Bulldog
thiers a one part line on it two part makes it the winch pretty powerful. at max exstension the winch will pull 2500 with a one part line the closer you come in the computer allows the winch to pull more.
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superjunior
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forgot to say thanks for the kind words fellas and thanks holdenwood, gave me a complex for my 80's skateboard helmet... just cost me 130$ for a new kask...
superjunior
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thiers a one part line on it two part makes it the winch pretty powerful. at max exstension the winch will pull 2500 with a one part line the closer you come in the computer allows the winch to pull more.
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Matt when you gonna post some pics up of that 60ton?
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