Falling pics 11/25/09

[Gologit]

Krylon. Medium blue. Ssshhhhh.

 

[madhatte]

Hmmm. Nelson's as an oil sprayer. That must be why for long term storage, we put them in cans of oil.

I never woulda guessed that one, either. I had the good dumb luck to find one of their senior engineer types when I called about parts once, and she was chock full of cool stories about how those things work (and don't work!) and how they got that way. I order direct from the manufacturer now.

 

[tramp bushler]

taking it at the ground would have meant taking the big sucker on the left at the same time, not fun or easy... I do have to wonder about dropping it off the edge like that though... how much wood was lost to breakage? I imagine he had his reasons.

Seen a few of these crazy kanuks dumping BIG cedar on u-tube seems there is allways breakage though...

Anytime you fall big red cedar on steep ground there is always breakage. They are pretty fragile. I watched the vid. He didn't do too bad. At least he showed putting in the face.

 

[tramp bushler]

When your boarding up it's real nice to use your buckin saw for swampin out and making/ putting in the boards. Then use a true falling saw for getting them off the stump. A 4' bar or longer makes getting the face out a lot easier and faster. And a longer bar tends to be more accurate for hitting your lay. High stumping works fine if your cutting for grade. Leave the long butt hooked to the ground.

 

[Virginialogging]

here's a way to handle white oaks

[video=youtube;X1eyjlrJKd0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1eyjlrJKd0&feature=youtu.be[/video]not that big but still a veneer grade, don't want any corks pulled on these.
Leaners throw in a whole new approach since the saw can't stay with a leaner
fast enough to stop splitting it or barber chair at worst.

Lead notch, cut heart out but leave two ears on side. Plunge cut in from sides and
leave a back strap or trigger, the cut the trigger and away she goes.

Felling a white oak - YouTube

 

[bitzer]

[video=youtube;X1eyjlrJKd0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1eyjlrJKd0&feature=youtu.be[/video]not that big but still a veneer grade, don't want any corks pulled on these.
Leaners throw in a whole new approach since the saw can't stay with a leaner
fast enough to stop splitting it or barber chair at worst.

Lead notch, cut heart out but leave two ears on side. Plunge cut in from sides and
leave a back strap or trigger, the cut the trigger and away she goes.

Felling a white oak - YouTube

Nice East coast style man! If your chain is performing you can face, snipe, heart nip and backcut those. Theres time and little to no pull when you stay with it. Obviously not seeing the tree in person of course. At least thats what I would have done. The last time I bored a tree was mid-november. It was a white oak that had a lot of crown weight and the wind was blowin like a sunofa##### to the lead. That was abt 150mbf ago. Use that long bar man!


#### I gotta get back on here more! Seems everyones doin well with the cold! Winter might stay this year for me!

 

[bitzer]

A little bit of what I've been up too. Guess you can only post 1 video at a time. Sorry for the #### audio and visual. Cell phone sucks. I may have to get something decent out for the trees I'm guna jack.

[video=youtube;jqUleZjrbvA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqUleZjrbvA[/video]

 

[bitzer]

[video=youtube;a-sRn29Z7Eo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-sRn29Z7Eo[/video]

 

[bitzer]

[video=youtube;4vlJqwPq6-4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vlJqwPq6-4[/video]

 

[bitzer]

The county brushed it out for me first (gets cut out early on). Damn nice of em. Man are they guna love me come clean up time!

[video=youtube;vtREr7DUCY0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtREr7DUCY0[/video]

 

[bitzer]

[video=youtube;mhNFPWPe5mY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhNFPWPe5mY[/video]

I'm sure not a damn one of these videos will work. Damn computers. Hopefully wrappin the job up this week. Workin on government land sure is a treat! no restrictions at all!

 

[bitzer]

Test run on the 30-ton. She lifted like a champ.

This one works pretty well in this size timber.

Minimizing impact on the mounds. The two red oaks are directly on them. A professor of Archeology is on site at all times watching and documenting. Apparently it is a state law when working around indian burial mounds. He is a decent guy though and likes saws. He took a #### ton of pictures and video of me working to make a database to show the state.

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[tramp bushler]

Hey Bitzer ; Were gonna have t start calling u Jacks R Us.

If you need to Jack any big soft / softer timber you will prolly w
ant a bigger jacking plate.

Few things worse than having the ram drive up into the tree instead of the tree lifting.

Looks like your laying them out real nice.

 

[Virginialogging]

nice pics Bitzer. Just where are these mounds you speak of? The closest to me are Town Creek in NC.

 

[bitzer]

Hey Bitzer ; Were gonna have t start calling u Jacks R Us.

If you need to Jack any big soft / softer timber you will prolly w
ant a bigger jacking plate.

Few things worse than having the ram drive up into the tree instead of the tree lifting.

Looks like your laying them out real nice.

Thanks! Yeah I don't normally have to jack anything and christ I try not to wedge anything either, but this job was non-stop lifting. In the pic with the two red oaks laid out, you can see a full jack seat on a tall basswood stump. My ####### wrists hurt so bad for the first few weeks from pointlessly beatin stuff over I had to make up two jacks. I've got huge slash piles in concentrated places because it was the only place I could put em. Everything has to stay off of the mounds.

I've got a big ##### of a red oak and a big maple I should be jacking tomorrow if the wind allows. The top plate of the bigger jack is 6" x 6" about the same size as the base directly under it. How big is the top plate on most tree jacks? I've only ever seen pictures.

 

[bitzer]

nice pics Bitzer. Just where are these mounds you speak of? The closest to me are Town Creek in NC.

Thanks! Eastern WI about 45 min north of Milwaukee.

 

[tramp bushler]

Yà 6x6 is good I didn't realize it was that big. Sizes get distorted on my phones screen. I had one that was about 8" sq. Had a ring of pipe about 3/8" tall welded in the center and a handle welded on to it. It wasn't attached to the Jack. It fit into my pack pretty good. Had to remember when a tree took off, o grab the plate as sometimes it would get squashed into the tree enough to go for a ride and when the tree hit the ground it could disappeared in a hole somewhere.

 

[northmanlogging]

I've been holding out for a silvey... but if I were to make one with an old bottle jack whats a good tonnage to go with? Guess you gotta balance out between capacity, size, and weight...

 

[tramp bushler]

It depends on how big ur timber is. I like the stubby jacks . I be jacked quite a bit of timber with 20 ton stubbys.

 

[northmanlogging]

its rare for me to run into anything bigger than 4", but it happens now and a again... the biggest has been a 5" spruce with twin tops and a gigantic spread of limbs (stupid yard trees...)