Falling pics 11/25/09

[RandyMac]

Thanks Ron...but there are days when I doubt if I know my stuff. You can put down 100 trees just like you'd planned and that 101st might humble you for weeks afterward.

Or so I hear.

I heard that same thing.

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[madhatte]

three different kind of 'ologists

What kinda 'ologists? Some have funnier arguments than others. Critter 'ologists don't have much sense of humor at all. Mycologists are, dare I say it, Fun Guys. Everybody else is somewhere in between.

 

[forestryworks]

Mycologists are, dare I say it, Fun Guys

Ha! Good one!

 

[Gologit]

What kinda 'ologists? Some have funnier arguments than others. Critter 'ologists don't have much sense of humor at all. Mycologists are, dare I say it, Fun Guys. Everybody else is somewhere in between.

Dunno what kind of 'ologists they were. They drove a mini-van...does that help? I know it's probably a faulty criteria but the 'ologists who drive pickups are usually okay. Beware the ones who drive mini-vans.

They were fussy. One of them used a tape measure and a calculator to decide exactly where my bucking cuts for the samples should be. He took a darn long time at it too. He was obviously the 'ologist in charge...the other two deferred to him and nodded their heads a lot whenever he spoke.

When I had the sample chunks on the ground I asked one of them "Well, what do you think it is"? He looked at me and said...and I'm not making this up..."You probably wouldn't understand". Oh.
No, I'm not writing this from the County jail...but it was real close there for a minute. One of the things I've discovered as I get older is that, as much fun as it might be, hitting people doesn't really accomplish anything positive. Hard on the hands, too.
I have another cutting job, same kind of deal, the end of this week. I'll know better than to do more than cut, grunt, spit, and scratch myself in inappropriate places. That seems to be what they expect.

Remember when we had the conversation awhile back about the lack of communication between the science guys and the knuckle draggers? Yesterday was a prime example of that.

 

[slowp]

Don't worry. They don't know what goes on in the woods in real life. Nor do most want to learn. I thought you looked peeved when cutting their blocks off.

Took me to Forestrywork's post to get the fun guy. My coffee is still cooling, and I slept in.

I ski a run with the new wildlife biologist when he makes his trip up to the air quality testing place. He does have humor and also gets good reviews from the timber folks for being able to work with. We skiing former FS drones get his eyes big with tales of the past. Last time we told him slash burning stories. One started with, "Were you on the one where Betsy almost got killed?" That's good for big eyes.

 

[tramp bushler]

Looks good Bob. In the first vid it looked like the tree had a heck of a back lean. But when it started to go I saw the understory tree that was the leaner next to it.

You have a lot more self disepline than I . . If you use a 12" wedge it doesn't hurt your hand much.

 

[Hddnis]

Hey, next time you might just be such a mindless buffoon that you let a gust of wind drop the tree on their mini-van.:hmm3grin2orange:

Not much I hate worse than people who use fancy language to build themselves up and put others down. Nothing wrong with knowing or using fancy words, but thinking that using them makes a person special is just foolish.




Mr. HE

 

[Trx250r180]

looks a lot dryer there than here Bob ,no mud on your boots :msp_wink:

 

[slowp]

looks a lot dryer there than here Bob ,no mud on your boots :msp_wink:

Yes. I'm inland but my 5 gallon bucket showed 3 inches of rain in 28 hours and then, after emptying it at 3PM yesterday, there is another inch in it. Winter has returned.

 

[Gologit]

Looks good Bob. In the first vid it looked like the tree had a heck of a back lean. But when it started to go I saw the understory tree that was the leaner next to it.

You have a lot more self disepline than I . . If you use a 12" wedge it doesn't hurt your hand much.

Thanks Glen. Yeah, that tree was an optical illusion. I'll bet when you saw the little face I put in it you figured I was about to have a big accident. :msp_biggrin:

 

[Trx250r180]

Yes. I'm inland but my 5 gallon bucket showed 3 inches of rain in 28 hours and then, after emptying it at 3PM yesterday, there is another inch in it. Winter has returned.

gettin trees downs not so bad right now ,getting them out with rubber tired equipments a challenge though

 

[Gologit]

Hey, next time you might just be such a mindless buffoon that you let a gust of wind drop the tree on their mini-van.:hmm3grin2orange:

Not much I hate worse than people who use fancy language to build themselves up and put others down. Nothing wrong with knowing or using fancy words, but thinking that using them makes a person special is just foolish.




Mr. HE

Well, to them, that was normal...the closed conversation, the technical terms, the exclusionary (how's that for a big word?) attitude. They live in their own little world and they're comfortable in it. I truly believe that they had no idea how much they pissed me off. And I don't think it would have mattered much, either.

I'm a long way from being any kind of scientist but I thought my question was valid. Guys like me who spend their time in the woods are often the first people to see and take note of unusual goings on. If we see something and it heads off an infestation of some kind it benefits all of us. The communication between the grunts and the suits just absolutely sucks.

Now, that being said...there was one back leaner that, if wedged just a little bit wrong, would have nailed their mini-van. I thought about it...I really did. But I had them move the van.
I figured if I smushed their van that I might have to give them a ride to town. I really didn't think I was up to that.

 

[HuskStihl]

Thanks Ron...but there are days when I doubt if I know my stuff. You can put down 100 trees just like you'd planned and that 101st might humble you for weeks afterward.

Or so I hear.

I really liked the video. Very efficient, no wasted movement. I need to use wedges more often 'cause I definitely don't go 100 without a humbler. Tried to defy gravity and wound up with a bunch of unplanned fence repair last month. Might have wound up being cheaper to have flown Bob in. But you did not hear that here!:biggrin:

 

[TreeGuyHR]

Dunno what kind of 'ologists they were. They drove a mini-van...does that help? I know it's probably a faulty criteria but the 'ologists who drive pickups are usually okay. Beware the ones who drive mini-vans.

They were fussy. One of them used a tape measure and a calculator to decide exactly where my bucking cuts for the samples should be. He took a darn long time at it too. He was obviously the 'ologist in charge...the other two deferred to him and nodded their heads a lot whenever he spoke.

When I had the sample chunks on the ground I asked one of them "Well, what do you think it is"? He looked at me and said...and I'm not making this up..."You probably wouldn't understand". Oh.
No, I'm not writing this from the County jail...but it was real close there for a minute. One of the things I've discovered as I get older is that, as much fun as it might be, hitting people doesn't really accomplish anything positive. Hard on the hands, too.
I have another cutting job, same kind of deal, the end of this week. I'll know better than to do more than cut, grunt, spit, and scratch myself in inappropriate places. That seems to be what they expect.

Remember when we had the conversation awhile back about the lack of communication between the science guys and the knuckle draggers? Yesterday was a prime example of that.

Translation -- he didn't know for sure either! Looked like some kind of canker; these are often caused by a fungus that kills some cambium; tree grows a bit, fungus kills some more, you get a canker. If they are associated with a wood decay fungus, then you could have significant internal decay. Apparently NOT in the case of these trees. So they weren't really high risk trees either. Plus, he may have been the guy that first identified them as "high risk" -- when they turned out not to be. You just "wouldn't understand" an expert being wrong, and he didn't want to upset your assumed worship of the priest class with white coats as infallible finders of "truth" :msp_tongue:

 

[rwoods]

Thanks Ron...but there are days when I doubt if I know my stuff. You can put down 100 trees just like you'd planned and that 101st might humble you for weeks afterward.

Or so I hear.

Your approach and posture signals a competant and confident man. Or a good actor. I'll bet on the former. Now if it was me, I would have to video about 101 trees and hope to find one that by sheer chance makes me look like I knew what I was doing. Ron

 

[rwoods]

... But I had them move the van.
I figured if I smushed their van that I might have to give them a ride to town. I really didn't think I was up to that.

That struck me as the funniest thing I have read in a while on AS. I'm still laughing. :msp_smile: Ron

 

[Gologit]

Your approach and posture signals a competant and confident man. Or a good actor. I'll bet on the former. Now if it was me, I would have to video about 101 trees and hope to find one that by sheer chance makes me look like I knew what I was doing. Ron

Now Ron, you don't think I'm going to post videos of my screw-ups, do you? Not that I ever make any of course.

If you made a list of every mistake that it's possible to make in the woods I'd probably have a check mark by every one of them. Some of them got marked twice. The only thing I haven't done, so far anyway, is drop a tree on my pickup.
We won't talk about my boss at that time and his brand new, just driven from the dealer, not a mark on it anywhere, F250 4wd diesel. He parked where he shouldn't have and I didn't know he was there...until I heard the yelling. He'd just got out to take a leak when I nailed that shiny ride right across the cab with a fair sized doug fir. Smashed it flat. Lucky for him he'd walked off a ways to relieve himself. He was yelling because he thought I might drop another one on him and he wanted time to get out of the way.
All he ever said about it was "I didn't think you were that close to the road yet". But it's still a check mark.

 

[northmanlogging]

Objects I've fell trees on...

house check
power line check
brother check X 6 (or more he's kinda dumb...:confused2
fence check
I'm sure there's more...

Still no cars, although my partner has hit his truck a few times with tops and branches, no big dents yet...

 

[RandyMac]

I torpedoed my Dad's old Chevy pick-up with a big DF snag. Dead trees slide a lot farther than green ones.

 

[Gologit]

Torpedoed...good choice of words. Or, as I heard a bull buck say one time..."Jeez kid, anything that went that far down the hill should have taken a road map with it".