Falling pics 11/25/09

[tramp bushler]

How cold has it been there this winter. ? If you put in the backcut first and tighten up a Maggy good then put in the face you won't saw into your wedges much.

 

[Samlock]

How cold has it been there this winter. ? If you put in the backcut first and tighten up a Maggy good then put in the face you won't saw into your wedges much.

Not cold at all. Unstable. The temperature keeps bouncing between -20 and 20 degrees.

It was just about a year ago I found out about the back cut first thing. I think it was 2 dogs who told me about that. Thanks Bill. Around here people are told to use quarter cut. It works sometimes better, sometimes not.

How is the winter weather in Alaska, Glen?

 

[tramp bushler]

We had about 6 weeks of cold with about a 7 mornings of 50 below and many days it never came close to warming up to 30 below. Then the January thaw showed up and it got up to 40 above. Yuk. It's been pretty mild since 0 to the teens. We got about 8" of snow 2 days ago. So there is about a foot in the woods. I'be regressed to snogo loggin my firewood. Had to fix the old 340 Yamaha's steering shaft that I twisted off last winter.

 

[tramp bushler]

The problem I've found with the toothed wedges in frozen wood is getting the wedge in far enough for the teeth to get a bight. I use the tip of my saw to open up an inch or 2 deep where the wedge will go in.

 

[bitzer]

I've had some fresh Alaskan air blow in last couple of days. It was -30 with the wind chill this morning when I was cutting. The wood was moving slow. Does wind chill count?

We had that same January thaw in the 40s. Lost nearly all of the 15" of snow we had. Now its just some crusty crap. Fine with me though. Choppin out stumps was a #####. Heavy wet snow followed by serious cold made for some ####ty cutting conditions. So far we've had a pretty normal winter. A hell of a lot better than last year.

 

[s.v tmbrjak]

just got put on hold due to snow this was the last day we worked 2012. hopefully be back at it tomarrow. cutting oversize behind timbco. View attachment 275284

 

[tramp bushler]

Looks good. I can see where a Timbco would have a problem with that one. Is that a 32" your running on your saw?

 

[tramp bushler]

Bitzer; I'd rather cut in 40 below with no wind any day to 30 below wind chill. How do u keep your hands warm? ? I frosted my throat and top of my lungs so I wear a breath warming face mask when it gets cold like that and I'm cutting. But I try to NOT cut at 40 below.

 

[s.v tmbrjak]

yes 32". its my personal fav. for everything. 32" will work just fine on anything up to 7 foot! but i keep a 36 in the truck.:msp_wink:

 

[demc570]

very cool pictures,enjoy seeing them.thankyou

 

[tramp bushler]

yes 32". its my personal fav. for everything. 32" will work just fine on anything up to 7 foot! but i keep a 36 in the truck.:msp_wink:

I used to run 32" primarily but the older and stiffer my back gets the better I like the 36 . On the 372 and 460 the 30" is the best, but by the end of the day my back is having a serious discussin.with My brain.
Heck, I'm happy as a clam at high tide. I just got a new 16" bar for my little Jonsred. I'm cutting little dead understory spruce poles for firewood. I sure don't need a bushlin saw to cut 6" on the stump stuff. Short bars are best in the.cold anyway, more oil per driver. It makes a difference.

 

[slowp]

I saw my neighbor, the BUOF (busted up old faller) while I was on a walk this morning. I asked him if he had time, could he fall a hemlock that was blocking the sun. I described it, he said, "We'll stop by on our way to go cut firewood." So, I hurried on home to start taking bark off as it had a tree house in it and I wanted to see if there were any more nails than the one's I'd pulled out.

They pulled up before I was done. Because there might be nails, he chose to use his grandson's saw. It had the oldest chain. He decided to swing the tree a bit and it was on the ground in no time. No nails were hit.View attachment 275504View attachment 275505View attachment 275506View attachment 275507

A leetle stump pull, but a fast job. I will limb the beastly thing and perhaps cut some scandihoovian candle sized chunks. No hurry--but more slash to clean up.

 

[bitzer]

Tramp- This worked out for my face earlier this week. I was going to ask you the same question on the hands. I double up my knit fallers gloves and grab onto the muffler when ever I need to. When pickin wood up I do the same. I need the dexterity on the levers and I put my hands in front of the exhaust every once in a while. She got up to 18 today with 10mph wind. Tropical heat wave. Cuttin in a t-shirt, long sleeve, and a light sweater. Finished cuttin that god forsaken county job today. Wedging damn near EVERYTHING got old. I can finally get back to some ####in loggin!
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This stumps for Randy!
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Last ####### tree. Barbwire in about foot into the back cut. The wood was soft and ugly and I had to wedge er. So I had to thow another chain on and let her ride!
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[tramp bushler]

Ya, the hands, Idea like to take every chainsaw manufacturing company exec, and every distributor / dealer that voted to Not put heated handles on EVERY SAW SOLD NORTH OF THE MASON DIXON and make them cut where I have to every morning that I do with My hands hooked to their nervous system. See how many days they could handle the make them piss their pants pain of thawing out almost frozen hands. . Several times each day.

I imaging a woman giving birth goes thru a lot of pain, but they don't have to do it every day ..@#$%&*-+()?/;:'&%$#@}{×÷π√•|`~€°^][=¶©®®\¶¶©°¢£•√π==^°π}{×÷ ;:&%%$###@@##$%&*-++()?//;::'"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You gotta watch it with those Bugz screen goggles. Where the strap bridge is, that exposed skin can and does freeze. I prefer the flip down full face screen. But the nylon screen sometimes melts thawing it out on the muffler. So the metal screen is best for the winter.

Awesome looking work as usual! !!! I hope it wasn't a new chain you found the wire with. .

 

[tramp bushler]

The Kinco brand insulated gloves and the Refridgeware foam insulated gloves are the best I've found. Try the grey leather fridgeware foam lined gloves. The whole glove is split hide and they don't melt on the muffler. The backs of all my Kinco gloves is melted off before they are wore thru in the fingers. I need to find a good supplier of uninsulated chopper mitts. .

 

[floyd]

I'm still on the 32" bar. I can still bend some at the waist. My hands just won't do cold anymore.

I put heavy nitrile gloves over the wrist under cotton & lester polyester faller gloves. This is bad if you have to take gloves off in the cold as nitrile does not breathe but it helps me have some feeling in my hands.

Cowboys call them roper gloves. Just a little known fact of questionable interest.

 

[slowp]

I didn't cut any trees. I liked the convertible mittens. I found them at the Army Navy Store in Ashland, WI.
They were wool lined with Thinsolite and you could flop off the top of the mitten and then have fingers in topless finger gloves. I've got good circulation. In the -20 weather if I kept moving, I'd flop off the mitten top. Hmmm, poetry.

They had unlined choppers there too. I hope they are still in business. I think I got these out here at another independently owned store. You may be able to find them in polyfleece. That's even warmer and you can wash it easily. They are inexpensive to buy so losing or destroying them won't break your bank account.

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[Samlock]

Ya, the hands, Idea like to take every chainsaw manufacturing company exec, and every distributor / dealer that voted to Not put heated handles on EVERY SAW SOLD NORTH OF THE MASON DIXON and make them cut where I have to every morning that I do with My hands hooked to their nervous system. See how many days they could handle the make them piss their pants pain of thawing out almost frozen hands. . Several times each day.

I imaging a woman giving birth goes thru a lot of pain, but they don't have to do it every day ..@#$%&*-+()?/;:'&%$#@}{×÷π√•|`~€°^][=¶©®®\¶¶©°¢£•√π==^°π}{×÷ ;:&%%$###@@##$%&*-++()?//;::'"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You gotta watch it with those Bugz screen goggles. Where the strap bridge is, that exposed skin can and does freeze. I prefer the flip down full face screen. But the nylon screen sometimes melts thawing it out on the muffler. So the metal screen is best for the winter.

Awesome looking work as usual! !!! I hope it wasn't a new chain you found the wire with. .

I know what you're talking about. I stick my hands under the shirt and melt them there. And jump up and down and yell a lot. Fortunately I only have to do that once a cold day. Once the pain is over, the blood circulates so well I can hold metal in my bare hands without them getting numb. I'm sorry to hear, Glen, that you got to take it more than once. You have operated chainsaws a lot longer than I have, I guess that's what it does to man's fingers.

Hand ware... Leather chainsaw mittens (with the separate trigger finger) and a pair of knitted wool gloves under work best for me.

 

[Hddnis]

Lately I've been putting some of those Hot-Hands warmers in my gloves when running machines. I just tuck them in on the back of my hands, which is good down into the teens with Atlas thermal gloves on. Running an excavator without a cab in blowing snow is a really cold job!

The inlaws bought me a box from Costco last winter and I've still got most of them left.



Mr. HE

 

[Samlock]

Came across this footage made by BC Forest Safety Council. Many details and practices vary around the world, but I think the Canadians approach the subject in a sound way. And it's entertaining too. I'd recommend every DIY logger to watch this.

[video=youtube;_lVJ8gTST5U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lVJ8gTST5U[/video]