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Freaking awesome!!!! How do those hazard fallers sit down with such big balls??? LULLZ!! :msp_w00t:
Falling pics 11/25/09
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Freaking awesome!!!! How do those hazard fallers sit down with such big balls??? LULLZ!! :msp_w00t:
TreeGuyHR
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Here is one more -- looks like the crew was proud of this one (although the big hollow cedar that was ON FIRE was more dangerous, IMHO). This big fir was probably also on fire, but at least not at the base!
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twochains
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How much more damage could that fir have taken before it fell on it's own? It looks like it could just snap, about 2ft from the top of the burn in that dent! Fricken scarey!!
Oh.....and I would like to change "balls" to "nerves" being as there is a pretty lady in pic #2. :msp_biggrin:
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Yow! Gnarly!
TreeGuyHR
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Should probably mention that my friend is the guy in Nomex in the shots of the cedar trees. At least one guy here has told me he knows who he is -- on a thread with no pics, based on me saying I had a friend wanting to sell an 090 AV with a 6 ft. bar for a pot of money. I first met hm in around 1990.
If anyone reading this knows who he is, kindly don't put his name in print -- he values his privacy and is a little paranoid. Been burned by some people over the years. I have worked with him on a couple jobs --- and he is actually really hard to work with. Does it his way, even though it might be a bit crazy, and even if you thought there might be some discussion about how. One of those old loggers who has a reputation, and makes both friends and enemies.
I tend to believe his stories, because I have seen him climb -- and that is him in these pics in his prime, probably mid 1980's. Does not suffer fools. He has told me he topped a hazard tree in Sequoia NP at 8 ft. diameter -- 200 ft. up, and I believe it even though I didn't see it. Said he laid down on the top for awhile (passed on doing a jig or head-stand):msp_biggrin:
If anyone reading this knows who he is, kindly don't put his name in print -- he values his privacy and is a little paranoid. Been burned by some people over the years. I have worked with him on a couple jobs --- and he is actually really hard to work with. Does it his way, even though it might be a bit crazy, and even if you thought there might be some discussion about how. One of those old loggers who has a reputation, and makes both friends and enemies.
I tend to believe his stories, because I have seen him climb -- and that is him in these pics in his prime, probably mid 1980's. Does not suffer fools. He has told me he topped a hazard tree in Sequoia NP at 8 ft. diameter -- 200 ft. up, and I believe it even though I didn't see it. Said he laid down on the top for awhile (passed on doing a jig or head-stand):msp_biggrin:
You guys have got to quit talking about hitting things - it may be contagious just like CAD is over in the chainsaw forum. Below is some pictures of a little mishap today. I was cutting dead snags again today. The one pictured is down an embankment in a new subdivision. I planned my fall from the street level but when I finally got through all the vines and brush to get to the tree. I changed my falling direction to better accommodate an escape path and to "conserve a little energy". I forgot about the electrical conduit stubs that I now couldn't see. As you can see in the pictures, it is a good thing I didn't overly underestimate the height of the snag. I can't take any credit for clipping just one conduit.
After this post, I'll put up some pictures that will get me run off AS; but Bob had asked in the past to see some of my ugly stumps and I have a doozy from this afternoon. It's been nice hanging out with you folks -:msp_sad: Ron
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After this post, I'll put up some pictures that will get me run off AS; but Bob had asked in the past to see some of my ugly stumps and I have a doozy from this afternoon. It's been nice hanging out with you folks -:msp_sad: Ron
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Ugly Stump
I was asked to put this broken oak on the ground today. I was having an extraordinary day for me in matching my cuts on the face cuts so I was feeling pretty good especially after they actually matched on this tree with its wider than my 36" bar cuts. The first picture is the before shot. A farmer had already been enlisted to pull the broken portion of the top off. He couldn't. I got to ride his hay spear up to cut a holding limb (the horizonal one from the left) - one of the more stupid things I've done as there was nothing to hold on to, other than wrapping your feet around the spear, and the guy was just a little jerky with the clutch as well as the tilt lever which he kept fiddling with - I assume while trying to be helpful. Anyway after I cut the limb, he was able to push off the broke top. No pictures were made of that little adventure. The second and third pictures are shots of what happen when the more hollow than I expected tree split down the middle as I was thinning the side and fell about 15 degrees or so off my intended line. It caught my chain and about 1/4" of the tip of my bar leaving my saw hung. Before I was done whittling on the down stem with another saw, I got it caught in the tip as well. We were able to bump the stem with the tractor and free both saws. The fourth picture is the downing of the now split stub. It had no weight left to fall where originally intended. I buried two wedges in it with no real effect so I thinned the hinge and it broke when I whacked the wedges again - as you can see it fell way off the original plan.
Also as you can see in the pictures, I need to mount a little level bubble on my bar as my cuts may have matched today but my level cuts sure weren't level.
I guess I should turn in my chainsaws now and my AS membership card. Ron
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I was asked to put this broken oak on the ground today. I was having an extraordinary day for me in matching my cuts on the face cuts so I was feeling pretty good especially after they actually matched on this tree with its wider than my 36" bar cuts. The first picture is the before shot. A farmer had already been enlisted to pull the broken portion of the top off. He couldn't. I got to ride his hay spear up to cut a holding limb (the horizonal one from the left) - one of the more stupid things I've done as there was nothing to hold on to, other than wrapping your feet around the spear, and the guy was just a little jerky with the clutch as well as the tilt lever which he kept fiddling with - I assume while trying to be helpful. Anyway after I cut the limb, he was able to push off the broke top. No pictures were made of that little adventure. The second and third pictures are shots of what happen when the more hollow than I expected tree split down the middle as I was thinning the side and fell about 15 degrees or so off my intended line. It caught my chain and about 1/4" of the tip of my bar leaving my saw hung. Before I was done whittling on the down stem with another saw, I got it caught in the tip as well. We were able to bump the stem with the tractor and free both saws. The fourth picture is the downing of the now split stub. It had no weight left to fall where originally intended. I buried two wedges in it with no real effect so I thinned the hinge and it broke when I whacked the wedges again - as you can see it fell way off the original plan.
Also as you can see in the pictures, I need to mount a little level bubble on my bar as my cuts may have matched today but my level cuts sure weren't level.
I guess I should turn in my chainsaws now and my AS membership card. Ron
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rwoods, man I'm laughing here, may not be the kind of sympathy you are looking for but, well, that was funny. Sometimes I think having a guy around with a tractor is asking for trouble. So often they want to help and frankly nine times out of ten a guy sitting on a seat is no help AT ALL. They can't see what needs pushed or pulled as clearly and they don't have nearly the control they think they do. If they insist on helping I back way the heck up. Sure there a exceptions and I like machines a lot, but a downed tree and a tractor are a bad brew waiting for hot water.
Mr. HE
Mr. HE
Just some remembrance parting shots. I threw the hammer in for Bob. No, I didn't drive the wedges with it. The saws are for the MAC thread. I guess I won't be needing the 4 unused new wedges I bought today or the oil. Or that brand new bar and chain on the 800. Unless someone throws me a lifeline. :msp_wink: Ron
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rwoods, man I'm laughing here, may not be the kind of sympathy you are looking for but, well, that was funny. Sometimes I think having a guy around with a tractor is asking for trouble. So often they want to help and frankly nine times out of ten a guy sitting on a seat is no help AT ALL. They can't see what needs pushed or pulled as clearly and they don't have nearly the control they think they do. If they insist on helping I back way the heck up. Sure there a exceptions and I like machines a lot, but a downed tree and a tractor are a bad brew waiting for hot water.
Mr. HE
Thanks. I'm not looking for sympathy. With volunteers you sometimes just have to go with the flow. If I could have gotten off that spear I would have but the fella had his mind set and no yelling or hand waving had any desired effect so I just clung to it.
I really don't like cutting with or around other people as most are a distraction. Ron
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Nah, go ahead and keep your card. You've already figured out why things went wrong and that's more than half the battle.
Another old logger story...The faller got in a hurry and didn't check for old stumps in the lay, dropped a big tree on them and consequently splattered a perfectly good OG into pieces. (we won't say who the faller was) There were several big chunks of shattered Redwood where there should have been a whole log. Kinda looked like a blast zone. The bullbuck happened by...bullbucks have a real talent for showing up out of nowhere immediately after a screwup...looked at what was left of the tree, and asked the faller "learn anything?" The faller just kind of stared at the ground and said "yeah". The bullbuck nodded and said "good" and walked off.
Screwups aren't so bad...if we learn from them.
Another old logger story...The faller got in a hurry and didn't check for old stumps in the lay, dropped a big tree on them and consequently splattered a perfectly good OG into pieces. (we won't say who the faller was) There were several big chunks of shattered Redwood where there should have been a whole log. Kinda looked like a blast zone. The bullbuck happened by...bullbucks have a real talent for showing up out of nowhere immediately after a screwup...looked at what was left of the tree, and asked the faller "learn anything?" The faller just kind of stared at the ground and said "yeah". The bullbuck nodded and said "good" and walked off.
Screwups aren't so bad...if we learn from them.
Thanks, Bob, you are a merciful guy. I'll try to behave better. Ron
I was cutting a maple in my grandmothers yard down. My new FIL was over with my mom and they were going to drag brush while I was doing all the cutting. He decided he would help drive wedges. He got excited and pounded one in farther than the other and pushed the tree about 45° from where I had faced it and caught a 372 and bar and broke the weld on the bottom of the handle and bent the bar. My dad can drive wedges for me but no one else.
As usual, the faller gods plugged up one of my walking routes. Look at the odd cedar stump. Since I had on shorts--temps were in the 50s and it was summer like, I did not feel like wading on through.
Here are apres falling pictures. I think they are cutting right of way.
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Here are apres falling pictures. I think they are cutting right of way.
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Hmmmm...that second one might have been a tad high on the back cut? :msp_biggrin:
Did that danger job today... sorry no pics (home owner was concerned with privacy...), but I can tell you the there was lots of vine maple to smack me in the face while driving the skidder, and since this was more of a help your neighbor out deal, that some guys really shouldn't handle chainsaws.
This was the steep one I mentioned a few weeks ago, sand in yer shorts is not a fun day 45 mins to get 5-6 trees on the ground and 7-8 hours watching other people trip down a hill pulling chokers and swearing alot makes for kind of a fun day.
This was the steep one I mentioned a few weeks ago, sand in yer shorts is not a fun day
45 mins to get 5-6 trees on the ground and 7-8 hours watching other people trip down a hill pulling chokers and swearing alot makes for kind of a fun day.Yep, exactly how I pictured it going down. Been there, had that kind of "help" where you hate to be rude but they aren't helping any. Glad you lived to tell us about it.:msp_wink:
Mr. HE
Michael, I feel for you man. But what can you do - new FIL and all. Ron
RandyMac
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overcut LOL!!
Maybe they are learning? I noticed that the tops were lopped off but only one side was limbed. Who knows? It is flat ground, there is a feller buncher working in the area maybe a mile away, but it has been soppy wet. The moon is not full, and the planets are not aligned. :msp_ohmy:
