Falling pics 11/25/09

[RandyMac]

You rock Bitz!

 

[bitzer]

You rock Bitz!

Thank you sir! So both videos worked? Damn computer is being weird. I've got a video of a bigger one tippin, but its so frickin grainy. Pisses me off enough to buy a decent camera and pack it around.

Heres that bigger one bucked up. The butt log is bucked in that second video. It made 4 10s and a 12. Easily a 1000bfer. Probably more.

Added some footage to the sale on this one. Stumped a maple on the right and had to fall the basswood on the left. She was still on her toes. It sure is a funny feeling when the rootwad is lifting during the backcut just before the tree releases.

Yep, April snow. I guess its better than the rain!

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[056kid]

lol I just cut them down. if there was really some money in it I would probably know. it probably won't even go to the mill why, I have no idea. seems to be that if the footage is not perfect it doesn't make the grade so it gets thrown down to the woods. Greed I guess it is.

 

[tramp bushler]

That rootwad lifting when backing up a tree gets real lively on steep ground after an extra amount of rain. I remember 1 spruce that lifted about 3 ft before I got it turned loose.
Bitz ; your saw sounds good. I only got the 2 nd vid. Kept getting redirected to the next page when I would click on the first one

 

[Samlock]

Here you go, Glen.

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[tramp bushler]

Hey Cool. Thanks!! Nice sounding saw. I can hear his 2 size file job. I guess I gotta get me one of those 390 s

 

[forestryworks]

lol I just cut them down. if there was really some money in it I would probably know. it probably won't even go to the mill why, I have no idea. seems to be that if the footage is not perfect it doesn't make the grade so it gets thrown down to the woods. Greed I guess it is.

I seem to remember another large poplar pic Joe posted a couple years ago - said the mills didn't take it. Was 6' or so.

If a mill isn't taking any oversize, why cut it? I'd be moving on to the next money-making tree.

 

[056kid]

That thing occupied a huge area in the canopy, I wasent going to fight with it, hangers and **** going out of lead. Mowing that tree down didn't take more than a few minutes, working it up was where the time was.
Plus its just fun to dump a big one..

 

[tramp bushler]

It's too bad really , poplar makes a nice board. A.d one that size would make a great slab table with a glass top.

 

[OlympicYJ]

Hey 056, was that a Yellow Poplar or an Eastern Cottonwood? If it were a Yellow I would imagine it would be worth some money to a custom miller selling specialty wood like glen was saying. As I understand it big Yellow Pop is not very common anymore...

 

[forestryworks]

Hey 056, was that a Yellow Poplar or an Eastern Cottonwood?

Liriodendron tulipifera

If it were a Yellow I would imagine it would be worth some money to a custom miller selling specialty wood like glen was saying.

Yup.

As I understand it big Yellow Pop is not very common anymore...

And yup again. Makes sense to leave the big ones if there's not many left, nor hardly a commercial market, yes?

But I digress, I'm just a prairie restoration tech, prescribed fire tech, and hazard tree faller all rolled into one. What would I know?

 

[OlympicYJ]

Was thinkin Liriodendron, figured I'd leave the scientifics out of it lol although question is, is it bastard growth or nice tight grained? If its a bastard prob not desirable for the specialty guy. What 56 did makes sense but I agree at the same time kind of a shame it went. Not knockin ya 56 just the forester in me comin out... I love killin the big ones as much as anyone.

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[northmanlogging]

heres a couple from today, was going to take video... but thats just bad luck and it was two stems grown together... plus I was gut deep in brush

 

[hammerlogging]

Was thinkin Liriodendron, figured I'd leave the scientifics out of it lol although question is, is it bastard growth or nice tight grained? If its a bastard prob not desirable for the specialty guy. What 56 did makes sense but I agree at the same time kind of a shame it went. Not knockin ya 56 just the forester in me comin out... I love killin the big ones as much as anyone.

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Actuallly cutting that big crappy timber is the best thing a forester or faller can do here- open the ground for regen of something useful. If a butt log is 10' technically, but double hearted for 6' of it, its a 4' log, which doesn't exist. Yes, you could specialty slab it but poplar is not tabletop material. The color is dark in big old field poplar, its oversize to load, to haul, and its a pain at the mill. there could have been 700 bf that was utilized in that tree-, each fork, plus about 5 sticks of pulpwood, all low quality, but paying, and used. But that butt chunk, likely will not make it out of the woods. Its not greed, its common sense.

 

[bitzer]

Thanks Glen! My rakes were a little low that day. I do em on my grinder and sometimes they get a touch low when I'm tired. She did sound a bit jumpy.



Hey Ted, You'd think they'd at least have you buck it when it starts to become merch size again. But then again maybe its just crap at that point. The low stump to save out other trees? If not I'd be banging those ####ers about waist high if they are just gonna lay.

 

[hammerlogging]

Thanks Glen! My rakes were a little low that day. I do em on my grinder and sometimes they get a touch low when I'm tired. She did sound a bit jumpy.



Hey Ted, You'd think they'd at least have you buck it when it starts to become merch size again. But then again maybe its just crap at that point. The low stump to save out other trees? If not I'd be banging those ####ers about waist high if they are just gonna lay.

I'dbet merch was bucked out and used .

 

[RandyMac]

I saw plenty of big DFs left because of pitch rings, there was a fair amount of good wood between those rings.

 

[OlympicYJ]

Actuallly cutting that big crappy timber is the best thing a forester or faller can do here- open the ground for regen of something useful. If a butt log is 10' technically, but double hearted for 6' of it, its a 4' log, which doesn't exist. Yes, you could specialty slab it but poplar is not tabletop material. The color is dark in big old field poplar, its oversize to load, to haul, and its a pain at the mill. there could have been 700 bf that was utilized in that tree-, each fork, plus about 5 sticks of pulpwood, all low quality, but paying, and used. But that butt chunk, likely will not make it out of the woods. Its not greed, its common sense.

Gotcha on the defect. Wasn't assuming it was a perfect tree. Just making an observation. Why I threw in the bastard growth comment. Seen some nice spruce go for pulp. Nice sizewise but too wide of rings for anything other than pulp. Like I said I get why it was cut, not meant as a criticism at all. And you are correct had thought about the regen issue. If left it would most likely establish seedlings around it which if it isn't worth much on the market it then becomes a PITA. Just curious why is it not table material? I don't know much about Liriodendron's wood properties.

 

[bitzer]

I'dbet merch was bucked out and used .

That's kind of what I figured. Utilization.

 

[OlympicYJ]

I saw plenty of big DFs left because of pitch rings, there was a fair amount of good wood between those rings.

And plenty of peelers were burned up in donkey firebox's before they had a market... The standards keep a slippin. I've seen some gold label lumber that was absolute crap that I wouldn't want in my house! The quality is starting to come back... sort of. Example, Weyco is switching to a slower growing seedling that's less prone to sinuosity than their super seedlings they've been stubbin everywhere.... it's a start. Once the China market becomes more quality conscience then you may see a better product in the future but at the present cheap lumber is the order of the day. Plus that wafer board, particle board crap doesn't need good quality timber to make and it's cheap. Keeps the home builders in business when that stuff falls apart...