Falling pics 11/25/09

[bitzer]

Way up nort dey got twen-tee won eenches of snohw a few dayz back. Yep they really talk like that up there.

Anyway last couple from this big timber lot clearing job. Things are drying up good and I will be starting a 60mbfer next week. Good production wood- 18-24 inches on the stump. Easy to cut, easy to toss around. Just pounding em out. I'm gonna miss sleepin in and putzin a little though.


Sorry no video to watch my flawless dismount!

I had to swing this one to keep it out of the swamp hence the board switch. If they'd been leaning right I could have easily got em from one side. I can see what you guys mean about a good board though. Standing out a ways on it she would creak a little too much for my liking. I think a red elm board would be great. They are awfully stringy and flexible yet strong even when dry.

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[Metals406]

Bitz, your attachments didn't take -- I can't see your pictures.

 

[bitzer]

Bitz, your attachments didn't take -- I can't see your pictures.

Thanks! I'll try this again.

Pic 1 from above.

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[tramp bushler]

Hey Bitz ; your in the chips now :msp_biggrin:

As a general rule I just rip a board from an understory tree right there. You don't have t fall it. Works best if you don't actually. That one that got blown up out in front looks like
it would have worked well. Just rip the side off it. Then bore thru and rip down again. Then just cut the board out. Leave the rest of it standing. I like to use the lower part to go into the spring board hole. Around 5' is a pretty good length.

Looks great tho. Ya dun goot

 

[OlympicYJ]

I think Bitz had a shoe on his board. Can't wait to get home and start modifyin the old mans board and maybe makin one of my own!

 

[tramp bushler]

Looks like just a blue wedge

 

[056kid]

Way up nort dey got twen-tee won eenches of snohw a few dayz back. Yep they really talk like that up there. O
Anyway last couple from this big timber lot clearing job. Things are drying up good and I will be starting a 60mbfer next week. Good production wood- 18-24 inches on the stump. Easy to cut, easy to toss around. Just pounding em out. I'm gonna miss sleepin in and putzin a little though.


Sorry no video to watch my flawless dismount!

I had to swing this one to keep it out of the swamp hence the board switch. If they'd been leaning right I could have easily got em from one side. I can see what you guys mean about a good board though. Standing out a ways on it she would creak a little too much for my liking. I think a red elm board would be great. They are awfully stringy and flexible yet strong even when dry.

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You gotta learn how to saw under a Dutchman! It ain't hard.. nice spring board though.

 

[OlympicYJ]

Ah I went back and looked again. You're right. Thought he had one with a shoe.

 

[HuskStihl]

You gotta learn how to saw under a Dutchman! It ain't hard.. nice spring board though.

I was trying to act all cool and pretend I understand what the heck y'all were talking about, but I don't. Why shouldn't you swing a tree right while making the backcut from the left side?
Thx,
Jon

 

[tramp bushler]

If you cut under a kerf Dutchman when putting in/ completing your back cut. There's a lot less chance that fiber pull will grab your chain and the tree will take your saw away from you when it falls.

Most of the time that's really really bad for the saw.

We need an avatar with a saw that's smashed.

 

[HuskStihl]

If you cut under a kerf Dutchman when putting in/ completing your back cut. There's a lot less chance that fiber pull will grab your chain and the tree will take your saw away from you when it falls.

Most of the time that's really really bad for the saw.

We need an avatar with a saw that's smashed.

Thanks for that TB. does that only apply to the kerf Dutchman, or will that also apply with a "step" Dutchman using a "rock" (whatever that is) or a piece of the face? I'm guessing turning is turning and it applies to both, but I'm sometimes wrong about falling stuff:msp_biggrin:

Thanks for explaining

 

[tramp bushler]

Different fallers do their steps differently sometimes. With the timber I fall I don't use steps to often. By the time my steps are working the tree is off to the races so the saw is Out of the backcut. Hopefully safe and sound.

 

[bitzer]

Hey Bitz ; your in the chips now :msp_biggrin:

As a general rule I just rip a board from an understory tree right there. You don't have t fall it. Works best if you don't actually. That one that got blown up out in front looks like
it would have worked well. Just rip the side off it. Then bore thru and rip down again. Then just cut the board out. Leave the rest of it standing. I like to use the lower part to go into the spring board hole. Around 5' is a pretty good length.

Looks great tho. Ya dun goot

Thanks Glen! Yeah that board does have shoe on it. I made it a few years ago and never got around to using it. I've had time to goof around on this job while waiting for everything else to dry up so I figured I'd give er a try. Otherwise If I was cutting along on a regular day I'd try to make one out of a tree. That or just rip em apart. The only problem with that is you have to have em both ready to go otherwise trying to split one at a time the butt will bind and there you sit.


Hey Ted I saw them off on the near side plenty, just didn't like the look of it when coming off the board like that. Some of the limbs had to come apart. I had time to putz anyway.

Husky- If you are cutting on your dutch side then you are cutting under the lean and where the tree will sit down. It could (probably won't) but could break off early into where you are standing or onto your saw. Anytime you are cutting the hinge off on one side you are relying on the holding wood on the other side to keep it on the stump. If the lean or crown weight is too much or the hinge wood is weak she could break off on you and come across the stump.

 

[bitzer]

This ash was leaning hard up the hill and I had no other timber up there to get so I figured toss it where I could reach it later. Usually they don't tear out this bad, but I've done this a lot with double stems. Works most of the time. Anyway as the butt is coming around it sits down where the hinge is cut off. I think with this one I reamed it as it sat. Sometimes I'll use a wedge to keep it open so I can keep cutting. It didn't have the momentum to bust up the dead crap in front of it. I get er down with the next one though :msp_biggrin:.

Yeah I know I take a lot of ####ing pictures... I figured when I'm old and grey I can put em all in a book and have something to look at.

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[HuskStihl]

Husky- If you are cutting on your dutch side then you are cutting under the lean and where the tree will sit down. It could (probably won't) but could break off early into where you are standing or onto your saw. Anytime you are cutting the hinge off on one side you are relying on the holding wood on the other side to keep it on the stump. If the lean or crown weight is too much or the hinge wood is weak she could break off on you and come across the stump.

Thanks Bitz, you are good at 'splainin stuff. I like my saws, but am very fond of my body, and don't want trees sitting on it. I honestly don't ever see myself ever doing a kerf dutchman. I don't fall that much, and I'd probably screw it up. I will stick a chunk of wood in the face to try to turn/steer a tree away from things I don't want to hit, but that's probably as "advanced" as I will ever get

 

[Metals406]

Bitz, you'll never see or hear me complain about pictures or vid'ya. opcorn:

 

[tramp bushler]

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If I post any duplicates, sorry.

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This is Sitka spruce. old growth. These ran 32-26" on the stump. I topped them between 70 and 85' up. then chunked them down to 20 some feet. I used my Jonsred 2150 for a climbing saw. on the first one I also had to use the 460 Stihl w/32" bar .. had a 18" bar on the jred. Probably not the perfect saws. but they got the job done pretty good.

Anyone know how to move a post into another thread?????

 

[Gologit]

Anyone know how to move a post into another thread?????

Leave it here if you want, it's fine. You can put the same pictures in any thread.

 

[Gologit]

Bitz, you'll never see or hear me complain about pictures of vid'ya. opcorn:

Same here. I look at some of that stuff they have to drop, and not only drop but save out, and all I can think is "better them than me".

I don't cut much hardwood and when I do it's mostly oak. I don't have to make them save out...good thing too. Those multi-stem monsters have had me running more than once.

 

[tramp bushler]

A couple pics from last Saturday

Getting things ready.

Starting up.

.going up.

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Took me 2hours 20 min.

This is a post I want to move over to the arborist 101 forum.
It sucks getting old And dumb!