Falling pics 11/25/09

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Ahh, don't knock OSB its stable and darn near deminsionally perfect . . Also it doesn't have voids in it. The only plywood that doesn't have voids is marine plywood and that's too spendy to go into a house.. prplly the same glue used in it as is used in plywood. Especially since a lot of plywood is made from piss fir.
 
No doubt some of it is good stuff but I'm livin in an RV trailer and have 3 cabinet doors with screws that pulled out of the craptastic particle board. Granted wafer board and OSB is better and OSB is better than wafer but I just don't care for it as much. The moisture just gets inside it and it starts to deteriorate after many years. I grew up in an old house with Old Growth fir and hemlock studs with cedar tongue and groove on the wall. That baby breaths and has always had a good roof on it so there is no deterioration after somewhere around 90yrs. It's sure go up in flames pretty darn quick though.

Got a question for ya Glen. A while back did you say you liked 30" bars over 32" on 372's?

Wes
 
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Ahh, don't knock OSB its stable and darn near deminsionally perfect . . Also it doesn't have voids in it. The only plywood that doesn't have voids is marine plywood and that's too spendy to go into a house.. prplly the same glue used in it as is used in plywood. Especially since a lot of plywood is made from piss fir.

todays OSB is not the 80's OSB. As for CDX you have to get Struc1 plywood to get something halfway decent. Unless your getting 1-1/8", still good stuff there
 
The butt log, I would like to see sawed. in my uneducated mind, a piece of wood is a piece of wood, some are nicer than others, but if there's boards in there they should get sawed. If all the gravy is cut and goes to the mill okay, what is the problem with sending stuff that is not gravy? Is it really that detrimental to a mill that often has a hard time getting wood to saw The lumber won't be as pretty but it will be lumber, sell that #### at a discount and add the $ to the pile. I guess I feel like if a tree is cut, every portion of said tree should be used if it indeed can be used. I can quarter that big butt log and they can send it to the pulp mill, I'll even do it on my own time so as not to waist good time out in the fell & buck.
But this is something I know nothing about. I just cut them and run them out to the first break. The big ones cut a lot easier for me. Big trees like that, il get my cuts aligned first time almost every time, gunned right, undercuts fall out with no beating, back cuts right on the $$, Like I have done it in a past life or something..
 
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Yup.



And yup again. Makes sense to leave the big ones if there's not many left, nor hardly a commercial market, yes?

But I digress, I'm just a prairie restoration tech, prescribed fire tech, and hazard tree faller all rolled into one. What would I know? :laugh:

Tell me how you really feel Jameson.
 
Hey 056, was that a Yellow Poplar or an Eastern Cottonwood? If it were a Yellow I would imagine it would be worth some money to a custom miller selling specialty wood like glen was saying. As I understand it big Yellow Pop is not very common anymore...

Yellow poplar as others said. It would be cool to make some big slabs just to see what they look like.
As for biguns, yea there are not a whole lot right now, but there are plenty that are well on their way.
Contrary to that, I am constantly seeing big ass timber tucked away on govt land...
 
Got a question for ya Glen. A while back did you say you liked 30" bars over 32" on 372's?

Wes

The 30" balance better. The only part of me that doesn't like 30" anymore is my back. My back REALLY likes 36" bars. You get more chain speed with a 30" over a 32 .
I find that the older and stiffer I get the more I get top of the tip kick backs from the 30+32" bars. If I was busheling with a 372 I would run 30 s and take lots of ibuprofen. 8 tooth semi skip. Chisel ground.
 
Thanks tramp. Sell in my 32" Sugi to a buddy and getting a husky mount bar. Either goin with a Cannon or a Tsumura lightweight. Thinkin .63 ga 3/8. 30" be fine since I'm short lol

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Cannon bars and 372 Huskies IMO don't go together. Cannons are great bars but they weigh a ton. Even tho Ron Hull used to bushel with one and cut like a raped ape the saw was still out of balance. They were the Woodsman Pro bars made by Cannon.
I'de go with the Tsumara L W. Defiantly 63 ga.
The 32" will be a little easier to be a bit more accurate when falling. But for everything else the 30 is sweet.
 
Cannon bars and 372 Huskies IMO don't go together. Cannons are great bars but they weigh a ton. Even tho Ron Hull used to bushel with one and cut like a raped ape the saw was still out of balance. They were the Woodsman Pro bars made by Cannon.
I'de go with the Tsumara L W. Defiantly 63 ga.
The 32" will be a little easier to be a bit more accurate when falling. But for everything else the 30 is sweet.

Duly noted on the Cannon's I'll have to see what the lengths are in the Tsumuras. I wanna say they make a 30 and not a 32 but can't remember. Thanks for the advice!
 
The butt log, I would like to see sawed. in my uneducated mind, a piece of wood is a piece of wood, some are nicer than others, but if there's boards in there they should get sawed. If all the gravy is cut and goes to the mill okay, what is the problem with sending stuff that is not gravy? Is it really that detrimental to a mill that often has a hard time getting wood to saw The lumber won't be as pretty but it will be lumber, sell that #### at a discount and add the $ to the pile. I guess I feel like if a tree is cut, every portion of said tree should be used if it indeed can be used. I can quarter that big butt log and they can send it to the pulp mill, I'll even do it on my own time so as not to waist good time out in the fell & buck.
But this is something I know nothing about. I just cut them and run them out to the first break. The big ones cut a lot easier for me. Big trees like that, il get my cuts aligned first time almost every time, gunned right, undercuts fall out with no beating, back cuts right on the $$, Like I have done it in a past life or something..

In short, I'm more concerned with the silvicultural implications of the cut than the utilization. who is to say scrap is wasted if its left to decay and renew the soil, provide habitat, etc. As well, it doesn't take long to figure out that, no matter how good it feels, operating at a net loss takes the "sustainable" right out of the "sustainable renewable resource" equation. BUT, it probably could be slabbed and sold for a profit, but its not really a profit, if you look at opportunity cost, which is, again, why its left. Sorry, its just not that nice out there.
 
Duly noted on the Cannon's I'll have to see what the lengths are in the Tsumuras. I wanna say they make a 30 and not a 32 but can't remember. Thanks for the advice!

I'm not that old yet and my Cannons went to the neighbor kid, he's still gung ho and macho about working hard all day. Gotta feel the burn he says. Them suckers get heavy for me and wear out my left elbow somethin fierce. I just ordered up a Tsumura 32" and 36" with an extra tip. Going to test run these a while and see. I personally didn't like the Stihl Lite enough for the price.

May have been a fluke or a bad apple but the rails were shot in short order, and the insert twisted in the pocket, the dealer took it back, refunded then sent it back. If your down to Farley's in June I'll bring a 36 on an 066 and a 32 on a 460. Both Tsu lites.

Tramp ain't kidding about the back liking a longer bar either, short or not, try them both side by side for a day if you can, seems a lot easier towards the tail end of the day to keep your nose clean with the extra couple inches.



Owl
 
Yeah, Sunday morning was quite a surprise, eh? We had about a half foot of fresh powder up here. At least it goes away fast this time of year.
Gonna be living in our tent here soon, so I hope it stops snowing!:laugh:

Are you guys gonna seriously tent it for a while? That'd be kind'a fun!

Just have to camp next to WIFI for her, and you're good to go! :laugh:
 
Just for the uneducated... What is with the block of wood? Is it burning and what is with the cuts in it?
 

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