Falling pics 11/25/09

[bnmc98]

Looks like fun timber to cut! So you had to pull em some to miss the creek?

I had to pull them a little to avoid the other trees. They weren't really leaning toward the creek thank goodness.

 

[bnmc98]

Definitely looks like Montanny fir. Fat on the butt, quick taper -- like a carrot.

I'm sure Randy Mac will be here shortly to call you a fiber puller. ;0)

LOL

That saw stock? Sounds stock.

"Hi my name is Brian... and I'm a fiber puller"

Those trees are actually pretty good for us right now. Two log trees.

Yeah, stock 461 w dp muffler

 

[Metals406]

"Hi my name is Brian... and I'm a fiber puller"

Those trees are actually pretty good for us right now. Two log trees.

Yeah, stock 461 w dp muffler

I'm north of ya, so I recognize the wood.

It's funny how a guy can tell an area by eyeballin' it.

The fir around here are about the same, with some exceptions.

 

[treeslayer2003]

you montana boys got no hard wood? of course i mean bigguns lol.

 

[treeslayer2003]

"Hi my name is Brian... and I'm a fiber puller"

Those trees are actually pretty good for us right now. Two log trees.

Yeah, stock 461 w dp muffler

we all are at some point, you had the nutz to post what ever it was you were cuttin at the time

 

[bnmc98]

we all are at some point, you had the nutz to post what ever it was you were cuttin at the time

I have no shame. I don't claim to be that great of a timber faller, besides, it's great to see good and bad right? That way it can give others an ego boost when they see my cutting

 

[Gologit]

I have no shame. I don't claim to be that great of a timber faller, besides, it's great to see good and bad right? That way it can give others an ego boost when they see my cutting

Don't worry about it. I've had stuff turn out so ugly that I wrote my partner's initials on it for the scale.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Don't worry about it. I've had stuff turn out so ugly that I wrote my partner's initials on it for the scale.

LMAO on that one Bob lol.

meh.......just stumps........ugly stumps don't matter to the mill.

 

[coltont]

Whoops: . I might have had the hinge wood a little thin on this one. It got pushed a little harder than I expected and there you have it. No one got hurt the log is still good. Idk why but I decided to film the tree getting pushed . made for a good video

 

[bitzer]

So how did you get the tree off? Buck it? He came at it kinda fast too though.


Brian- i pulled the **** out of the butt of a good sized high value hard maple two days ago. Usually the forester pops out of nowhere when that happens to explain to me how we need to keep the wood in the logs. I looked around, just me and the squirrels, so I trimmed it and bucked it. Back to buisness. I wasn't baggin on ya man.

 

[coltont]

Yep bucked a 25 foot stick of it off and drove out from under it. Yea he came in a little hot. Maybe I should have cut it a little higher and got out of that irregular grain down low on the butt. It's all about that base........ Haha

 

[bnmc98]

So how did you get the tree off? Buck it? He came at it kinda fast too though.


Brian- i pulled the **** out of the butt of a good sized high value hard maple two days ago. Usually the forester pops out of nowhere when that happens to explain to me how we need to keep the wood in the logs. I looked around, just me and the squirrels, so I trimmed it and bucked it. Back to buisness. I wasn't baggin on ya man.

I didn't think you were baggin on me.
I try not to do it, but I guess I have not perfected the technique (obviously; duh). I guess sometimes its difficult for me to justify all the extra time when most of the time doesn't really matter that much in the wood we are cutting.

I try not to junk up the woods as we are doing land clearing as well, so it all gets processed on the landing except for some trims on mismatched cuts or pulls like those (and obviously if the tree needs to be limbed and bucked because its too heavy to get out whole) but many times i have asked do you want the pull cut out of that butt, the answer is usually "no"

I still do try to get the best log to them though as I don't like to do "half jobs"
but I haven't yet figured out how to entirely get rid of the pull on some of these larger fir that are leaning and I have to try to persuade them a little in a different direction, or smack with wedges. I have found (and maybe I am going about it wrong) that if I am trying to pull them a little even, on some of them, unless I leave more hinge or set up a sisweel or something, that the sheer weight of the tree seems to just break the hinge as it goes over and they only get about halfway the direction that I want, or my face. And because of the leave trees that can and does suck when that happens.

Anyone else had that issue, and how do you overcome it?

 

[northmanlogging]

steep face, and raise yer back cut an inch or so, not to much, but just a wee bit.

 

[treeslayer2003]

yep, some think my faces are excessive steep. this timber loves to pull, steep face helps alot. i also go pretty deep on big trees......some times 50%

 

[Skeans]

A little cheating for the end of the week, got to love the 4 roller heads you can steer them in hardwoods.


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[bitzer]

I didn't think you were baggin on me.
I try not to do it, but I guess I have not perfected the technique (obviously; duh). I guess sometimes its difficult for me to justify all the extra time when most of the time doesn't really matter that much in the wood we are cutting.

I try not to junk up the woods as we are doing land clearing as well, so it all gets processed on the landing except for some trims on mismatched cuts or pulls like those (and obviously if the tree needs to be limbed and bucked because its too heavy to get out whole) but many times i have asked do you want the pull cut out of that butt, the answer is usually "no"

I still do try to get the best log to them though as I don't like to do "half jobs"
but I haven't yet figured out how to entirely get rid of the pull on some of these larger fir that are leaning and I have to try to persuade them a little in a different direction, or smack with wedges. I have found (and maybe I am going about it wrong) that if I am trying to pull them a little even, on some of them, unless I leave more hinge or set up a sisweel or something, that the sheer weight of the tree seems to just break the hinge as it goes over and they only get about halfway the direction that I want, or my face. And because of the leave trees that can and does suck when that happens.

Anyone else had that issue, and how do you overcome it?

Do you use a dutchman to swing em in compliment with a sizwheel or extra holding wood?

 

[Metals406]

you montana boys got no hard wood? of course i mean bigguns lol.

Yup, we got birch and black cottonwood, some pretty big aspen -- maple, oak, chestnut, etc can be had -- just have to be in city limits or glean a yard tree if'n somebody out in the county planted one.

Hardest wood would be Black Hawthorn. It's my favorite all around 'use' wood.

 

[bnmc98]

steep face, and raise yer back cut an inch or so, not to much, but just a wee bit.

Thank you, I just learned something new.

Do you use a dutchman to swing em in compliment with a sizwheel or extra holding wood?

I have before, but for some reason I stopped and started trying to leave the whole bacon on the bigger trees. I think I had a few hinges go prematurely. I use a dutchman quite a bit on the smaller stuff.

 

[bitzer]

Thank you, I just learned something new.



I have before, but for some reason I stopped and started trying to leave the whole bacon on the bigger trees. I think I had a few hinges go prematurely. I use a dutchman quite a bit on the smaller stuff.

A soft dutchman will keep the stem moving and won't put as much pressure on the pull wood keeping it intact. Just a regular dutchman can put a lot of pressure on the hold wood. Using a root to help pull it works well. Also if you start your backcut from the dutchman side and cut across the stump to the pull side you can use the entire side of the stump to pull with.

 

[HuskStihl]

I have no shame. I don't claim to be that great of a timber faller, besides, it's great to see good and bad right? That way it can give others an ego boost when they see my cutting

Brian, this should make you feel better. I modded my muffler to cover my girly screaming

I know that NM and TS are all about the 461, but Bitz' ported 390 will get thru stuff more faster