Falling pics 11/25/09

[woodfarmer]

I was aiming for the tall tree on the right, but it caught the branch of the big soft maple and slid down it, was able to pull it down with a little help from the Case

 

[bitzer]

If you want excellent examples of how to do specialty cuts or just falling in general check out this guy:




He's one of the best I've ever seen.

Yep Jack's the man. Ive learned a lot from him. Never realized how old he was until he mentioned how long he's been cutting. I think he said he caught the tail end of the old growth in the 80s.

 

[northmanlogging]

Hotsaws, and TarzanTree... can't go wrong

Would any of us know how to pull off a siswheel without either one of them guys? except maybe Bob...

 

[flying pig]

No logging for us the last few days. -48*C with the windchill. Be like trying to knock over a several ton icicle without breaking it. We're going to try to do some tomorrow regardless of the temperature, there won't be many more days off of our regular day jobs for quite a while in the new year...

We had one final on our crawler freeze since the last time we ran it. May need resealed in the spring. So we started a fire under it and got it thawed.

Do any of you guys have any special tips or tricks for cold weather falling?

 

[woodfarmer]

Had to break out the big equipment today, it pulls pretty good in about 8" of snow. Trail is getting packed down. The larger logs will wait for the tractor. It's been a steady -20's celcius or -4 Fred.

 

[Ronaldo]

Had to break out the big equipment today, it pulls pretty good in about 8" of snow. Trail is getting packed down. The larger logs will wait for the tractor. View attachment 621953 View attachment 621954 View attachment 621955 It's been a steady -20's celcius or -4 Fred.

Nice Ash trees. Primarily for firewood or you doing some milling? Those log arches are amazing aren't they.

 

[woodfarmer]

The good logs will go to the mill and the rest for firewood. They take good two sides and down to 11” on the tip.

 

[Skeans]

The good logs will go to the mill and the rest for firewood. They take good two sides and down to 11” on the tip.

Are you guys allowed to leave the face on the logs?

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[woodfarmer]

6” is pretty standard

 

[lfnh]

wood - not picking on you, but bypass face cuts can make for some bad near misses.
barber chairing and stall out when the stick is in motion and hits that false kerf shelf are just two.
that last ash butt and stump has what appears to be a fracture starting in lower left of butt, (right in your picture)
at corner of face.
scaler will probly dock that log or cull it if that is a fracture.

keep looking up,
hth

 

[edwardo]

6” is pretty standard

Jew end up understand what I was saying about the bypass?

 

[woodfarmer]

No, I’m still not getting it. There is no bypass when I put my face notch in, I didn’t cross over the bottom cut with the top angle cut.
then I start the back cut on the far left side and bring it around. Put a wedge in, then chased the hinge using the top of the bar.

Ifnh, is the kerf shelf you mention, the four inches in the sapwood next to the holding wood on the log? Left is standing behind the stump as in the picture. Are you saying I create this when doing my back cut?
I used to frame so to me “kerf” is the width of the saw blade on the back cut.
The fracture I see is in the bottom right where the butt is sitting on the stump, is that what your referring to?

 

[edwardo]

If I could do some computer things with this cellphone I’d do a paint on it. It’s easy to see the bypass on the pull side. Look how the wood popped..

 

[Skeans]

Here's a swing or by pass needed to make the lay for effective grapple cat yarding.

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[hseII]

I can get away with a 70-75 cc saw that has been hopped up with a 32 inch bar if use skip chain on the wood around here ,hardwoods or softwoods ,just have to sharpen the chain right , I have never been around the other woods like oaks so i cant say if my setup would work for what you do ,the longer bar feels safer to me in small stuff ,keeps my face further away from the tree in smaller stuff ,our trees blow up and barberchair if don't cut them right ,there's many ways to do the same thing ,i just don't feel safe walking behind a tree once the face is in ,do you have wrap handlebars or regular half wraps ?

Works Good On Georgia Hardwood Too.

 

[hseII]

On the subject of short bars, since its obviously come up.

Why is it that the guys who've never really tried it out, on a modern saw, or any saw, nay say the long bar?

But most of those that gave it a chance are all for it?

I think Experience encourages Logic, where inexperience hugs The Side of Resisting Change.

 

[lfnh]

Wood-
Lower Right in your pic
Ash oaks soft maple can fracture and chair blinding quick esp sub zero also look out for frost fractures

 

[woodfarmer]

Here's a swing or by pass needed to make the lay for effective grapple cat yarding.

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Do you do a standard back cut from the back of the tree to the hinge, I couldn’t tell in hotsaws video if he did anything special on the back cut?

 

[Skeans]

Do you do a standard back cut from the back of the tree to the hinge, I couldn’t tell in hotsaws video if he did anything special on the back cut?

Depends on the tree some require more work to chase then others. Typically I'll start on the high side walk over to the low side with the nose edge it up then finish whatever I can from the high side.

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[edwardo]

No, I’m still not getting it. There is no bypass when I put my face notch in, I didn’t cross over the bottom cut with the top angle cut.
then I start the back cut on the far left side and bring it around. Put a wedge in, then chased the hinge using the top of the bar.

Ifnh, is the kerf shelf you mention, the four inches in the sapwood next to the holding wood on the log? Left is standing behind the stump as in the picture. Are you saying I create this when doing my back cut?
I used to frame so to me “kerf” is the width of the saw blade on the back cut.
The fracture I see is in the bottom right where the butt is sitting on the stump, is that what your referring to?

Make a face cut & take a picture.