FarmerTec Huztl MS660 Updated Build Kit - Build Thread

[MG porting]

They make some of their parts and buy some of their parts. I have seen the parts change over time from the first kits sold. All the parts have changed multiple times. They have even had at least two handle/tanks molds which is the most expensive part for them to produce. Some were improvements and then those improvements sometimes back slid. The different cylinders are mind blowing, that has been constantly changing. I will say this. They have never changed the spike package that shorts you the nuts. They were short in the first kits and are still missing. I could go on.

I have kept up with this and the recent problems are simply because they bought outside cylinders. Nothing would cause bearing faliure faster than the symmetry being off in the cylinder. Oh one more thing, a crappy carb. They can starve those bearing. To start they don't produce enough volume they are very restricted. Then many kit builders excersise there ability to customize and change the saws they produce and they almost always want to increase compression, most use a FarmerTec carb and that carb has the EPA jets and boom...

I have said from the get go that they are good if they are copies and with the changes we adapted and changed to some oem parts. Giving us a saw that will serve us well. The first kits had 76-1 cloned, that went away fast

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Funny you mention carburetors because after going with different muffler on mine that's when I was playing with the jetting on my carb and decided to go with the tillotson carb and glad I did plenty of fuel out of that carb. Lol

 

[Bedford T]

Funny you mention carburetors because after going with different muffler on mine that's when I was playing with the jetting on my carb and decided to go with the tillotson carb and glad I did plenty of fuel out of that carb. Lol

What is in the fuel? Oil. The stuff the bearings need. Increase the volume of fuel increase the availability of the oil. So we are on the right track. We just need good reporting. If there is a problem report it here and provide details that will help us put it in context.

The problem for us is when we get hard heads that do not test their saw. So it fails and they bitch and whine and don't cough up the fact it was never tested. I have gotten much better at spotting that. This is just to rewarding to pass it up.

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[MG porting]

What is in the fuel? Oil. The stuff the bearings need. Increase the volume of fuel increase the availability of the oil. So we are on the right track. We just need good reporting. If there is a problem report it here and provide details that will help us put it in context.

The problem for us is when we get hard heads that do not test their saw. So it fails and they ***** and whine and don't cough up the fact it was never tested. I have gotten much better at spotting that. This is just to rewarding to pass it up.

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Yep I try to give you and everyone else a heads up on what I'm doing and because why and what happens in the end good or bad because like you said it helps all of us to watch out and look for specific problems that my pop up. And I got to admit even with the setback of the cylinders on mine I still love working on it but it would be nice if could do more cutting with it. Lol. But I'm determined to make this farmertec ms660 a good solid runner so I can say I have to go cut today and not say I have to change the cylinder today. Lol. Yea I know starting to sound like a broken record. Lol

 

[Bedford T]

Yep I try to give you and everyone else a heads up on what I'm doing and because why and what happens in the end good or bad because like you said it helps all of us to watch out and look for specific problems that my pop up. And I got to admit even with the setback of the cylinders on mine I still love working on it but it would be nice if could do more cutting with it. Lol. But I'm determined to make this farmertec ms660 a good solid runner so I can say I have to go cut today and not say I have to change the cylinder today. Lol. Yea I know starting to sound like a broken record. Lol[emoji23][emoji38]

You are right. It's simple as building the saw using parts that fit the bill and operating and maintaining it.

I cant count the number of people that have bought kits and insisted on using 100% of the parts that came in the kit just because they came in the kit without considering whether or not there were parts that would make the saw last longer. I used the screws that came in the kit when FarmerTec put 20mm in instead of 25mm. Examples like that make me dizzy. So over time we know what makes the saws copies again. Copies work. But a bad cylinder, we can't plan for that. But when for example it's hard to pull. We have to remember what we are working with and suspect and change from the norm.

Remember for the majority we learn, we learn much. That is very valuable.

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[MG porting]

You are right. It's simple as building the saw using parts that fit the bill and operating and maintaining it.

I cant count the number of people that have bought kits and insisted on using 100% of the parts that came in the kit just because they came in the kit without considering whether or not there were parts that would make the saw last longer. I used the screws that came in the kit when FarmerTec put 20mm in instead of 25mm. Examples like that make me dizzy. So over time we know what makes the saws copies again. Copies work. But a bad cylinder, we can't plan for that. But when for example it's hard to pull. We have to remember what we are working with and suspect and change from the norm.

Remember for the majority we learn, we learn much. That is very valuable.

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Yes sir you are right even as much as I know about saw's I still learn more about them every day because of the kit saw's you Bedford T make videos for people who are novice to the hobby of building farmertec saw's wich is very cool as far as I'm concerned I injoy watching them and I already new how they came apart and how they go together now that being said I don't by all means know every saw out there but that by choice like you I just wish more of these guys that are building these farmertec saw's would jump up and be truthful and more details on how they put there's together or just plain ask before they do before they do more harm than good to something that can be a great experience and something that they can go out do some work around the farm or out in the woods to get firewood for the winter or for that matter get out of the woods if a tree is blown down in the road. I've had that happen before.

 

[golddredgergold]

Lol I guess its easy to spot someone that has truly built and used the 660 kit. The little things that give that away are easy.

I have a tip.
The stock pull handle that was provided in my kit is great. Apparently the first ones where ripping the bottom out and those are easy to spot they have an orange top. Anyway back to my tip. The knot in the stock rope is a single knot and not tied tight. So 3 pulls in on this new saw and the rope came untied. And of course wound the rope back inside and so I had to go back in and pull the starter cover and get it back in order and tie the handle back on.
So save some headache and tie a better knot at the pull handle when you are building it.

 

[MG porting]

View attachment 646562 Lol I guess its easy to spot someone that has truly built and used the 660 kit. The little things that give that away are easy.

I have a tip.
The stock pull handle that was provided in my kit is great. Apparently the first ones where ripping the bottom out and those are easy to spot they have an orange top. Anyway back to my tip. The knot in the stock rope is a single knot and not tied tight. So 3 pulls in on this new saw and the rope came untied. And of course wound the rope back inside and so I had to go back in and pull the starter cover and get it back in order and tie the handle back on.
So save some headache and tie a better knot at the pull handle when you are building it.

Man I still have a crush on your covers!!! One single not will do but you got to get it tight by grabbing the end of it with pliers and after that take a lighter and melt the end of the pull rope and then it should fit nice and snug in the handle that should help you out a bit God can't get over the covers.

 

[MG porting]

I guess I should show off my farmertec off before I tare it down next month. So here she is with a 32" guide bars. My covers aren't as cool as his though I'm so jealous of his covers.

 

[golddredgergold]

I hate usps a little more each day. You got to love this. Its scanned but we don't know where? And a few pics of my 660 enjoying the sun. Getting ready to run a few tanks more through it today.

 

[Bedford T]

I hate usps a little more each day. You got to love this. Its scanned but we don't know where? And a few pics of my 660 enjoying the sun. Getting ready to run a few tanks more through it today. View attachment 646586 View attachment 646583 View attachment 646585
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You you build them you have a connection to it. When your talented and can make others connect with your saw it really paid off.

The USPS can screw up. I posted a photo last year of a silver box sitting underneath my mailbox with a Stihl chainsaw in it. And yes the box give it away. The postmaster did not believe me. In this digital world I proved. And said I bet you would have argued with if it had got gone. I said this better never happen again. I bet it does.

So I feel ya lol

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[MG porting]

I hate usps a little more each day. You got to love this. Its scanned but we don't know where? And a few pics of my 660 enjoying the sun. Getting ready to run a few tanks more through it today. View attachment 646586 View attachment 646583 View attachment 646585
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Could you kindly tell me how you did your graphics on your covers pleeeeaaaas?

You you build them you have a connection to it. When your talented and can make others connect with your saw it really paid off.

The USPS can screw up. I posted a photo last year of a silver box sitting underneath my mailbox with a Stihl chainsaw in it. And yes the box give it away. The postmaster did not believe me. In this digital world I proved. And said I bet you would have argued with if it had got gone. I said this better never happen again. I bet it does.

So I feel ya lol

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That there Bedford T would make me blow my head gasket.

 

[golddredgergold]

Could you kindly tell me how you did your graphics on your covers pleeeeaaaas?

Scuff and wash plastic with Dawn dish soap. Use auto motive grade plastic adhesion promoter. Base coat orange. Hydro dip graphics on. Let dry. Clear coat with 2k automotive clear.

 

[golddredgergold]

Fast question for you guys.
What benefit would a west coast clutch cover give me? Worth the $30.00 or not? I am going to build my own wrap around bar and can see the benefit of that.

 

[Bedford T]

Fast question for you guys.
What benefit would a west coast clutch cover give me? Worth the $30.00 or not? I am going to build my own wrap around bar and can see the benefit of that.

The handle is light weight so you need the wrap or a oem handle. But to your question they were designed to go together. The wrap and the west coast cover with the large dogs made it a better balanced saw and of course cleared the debris better (noodling) giving the clutch a longer life. Less tipping. That's how mine is setup. Looks better too

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[MG porting]

Scuff and wash plastic with Dawn dish soap. Use auto motive grade plastic adhesion promoter. Base coat orange. Hydro dip graphics on. Let dry. Clear coat with 2k automotive clear.

I'm definitely going to have to try it thanks for telling how you did it looks amazing.

 

[golddredgergold]

I'm definitely going to have to try it thanks for telling how you did it looks amazing.

Lots of YouTube videos on Hydro dipping. Check it out. I also order the 4 pack of covers from Hutzl to dip and list up on ebay. Pm me if you decide its more than you want to take on and I can do a set up for you.

 

[MG porting]

Lots of YouTube videos on Hydro dipping. Check it out. I also order the 4 pack of covers from Hutzl to dip and list up on ebay. Pm me if you decide its more than you want to take on and I can do a set up for you.

OK will do sound good !! I know one thing I still love yours I might have dreams about it tonight. Lol

 

[Bedford T]

Everybody enjoying the sun?

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[MG porting]

Everybody enjoying the sun?

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Yep had to go help a friend out with a fence building project that we started three weeks ago. Lol. I was really wanting to go in the garage this morning and stair at my saw's. No such luck though. Lol. But at least I'll have the spare cash to get my new cylinder kit next month witch is coming soon.

 

[MG porting]

How about you Bedford T did you get a chance to play out in the sun today?