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I'm still working that out for myself...I tried to destroy my Proyama top handle last year to no effect. Not with negligence, but by bucking 10-12" stuff over and over and over and over. But to tip. Huh. Just cut..🤷‍♂️ Still cutting.. I'm only on my second chain on that one, so...still testing.. I bet those real zenoahs are a very, very nice saw.

Couldn't find a used tophandle in these parts if I tried..

No holtzforma's here. So I don't know about that.

Prob got bad advice for people that pretend to know on YouTube.

There's so much of that it is ridiculous. And so many of them get free stuff to critique. Not necessarily an honest situation.
 
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