That's fine you don't have to buy them, but plenty of people do and enjoy them...live and let live.
Mine was first batch with oiler issues. They sent me the updated oiler free. Worked like a charm then.View attachment 1130063
My farmertech 288 has run flawlessly since new. I even put a knockoff 066 piston in it for some added compression.
You can do whatever you like, I'll stick with my clone saws, the amount of wood I cut up doesnt justify the price of a pro saw.Nah, I think im going to continue my due diligance on talking about how truly crappy and a waste of money these noker/holtzforma/bluesaws/etc really are. Chinese JUNK.
Due diligence refers to doing research to further educate yourself so you can make an informed decision - something you clearly are not doing. Bad mouthing something with little or no firsthand experience is about as far from due diligence as you can get.Nah, I think im going to continue my due diligance on talking about how truly crappy and a waste of money these noker/holtzforma/bluesaws/etc really are. Chinese JUNK.
So I sold him a bar and got paid labor rate to finish putting together and start and check over and tune.
Well worth the 364 shipped for the G372xp pro ones that come with meteor topends cylinder piston and walbro carb etc.
Fired right up. Easy money.
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On one that is bought whole and not a kit. Just putting on top handle and spikes. I like checking fasteners too. Then check tune.
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what would you rather go to war with a Toyota 4x4 with a M2 on the back or a Chinese knock-off? When i get dropped off on a site, with nothing but a chainsaw and an excavator I know what im NOT taking with me. A freaking chinese clone saw. Buy what you want. "The poor man always pays twice".Due diligence refers to doing research to further educate yourself so you can make an informed decision - something you clearly are not doing. Bad mouthing something with little or no firsthand experience is about as far from due diligence as you can get.
Carry on.
I thought that was a joke, "Hanakawa", but apparently not. Are they a manufacturer/supplier to holtzforma, neotec, proyama and others? Or wth?Not a fan of clone saws but I hear good things about the Hanakawa stuff.
As I understand it Hanakawa actually makes a lot of their own parts, castings, injection molding, etc. I’m sure they buy some of their small parts from whoever’s got what they need.I thought that was a joke, "Hanakawa", but apparently not. Are they a manufacturer/supplier to holtzforma, neotec, proyama and others? Or wth?
It's sometimes hard these days (and maybe for about 20 years or more) to figure out who makes what where and for who. And not only with chinese stuff, not by a long shot.
PS, I ran my little proyama top handle mercilessly yesterday making full bar cuts over and over again in a very hard (for pine), beetle-killed tree. Dropped it and limbed it and bucked it. Nothing melted, nothing protested, it just kept going like an energizer bunny. The chain got under-oiled at one point, so I had to turn it up to the exxon valdez setting and off it went again. Anyway, enough torture testing of the little saw. It's not really made for that, me thinks.
That's pretty much the point, when you're desperate to feed yourself and family you'll cut any corner you can to come out ahead of the person next to you. Chabuduo: It's good enough.snipped for brevity: There is 1.4 billion people in China. USA, Canada and Europe together is less than 1.1 billion. Industrial worker here makes let us say 15$/hour. Chinese maybe a cup of rice/h still leaving a lot of people who do not get even that.
There is where the price difference comes from. If chinese copy a quality product and copy it good I do not see any reason why it would be junk.
Nah, I think im going to continue my due diligance on talking about how truly crappy and a waste of money these noker/holtzforma/bluesaws/etc really are. Chinese JUNK.
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