Fatty silver maple take down

[Scars2prove-it]

I believe he is referring to roping out on a half hitch instead of a block. One tip if you are roping out the top: put a pull line in it to make sure it goes the right way and hang on in case your ground man doesn't let it run.

 

[Florida16]

Originally posted by Scars2prove-it
I believe he is referring to roping out on a half hitch instead of a block. One tip if you are roping out the top: put a pull line in it to make sure it goes the right way and hang on in case your ground man doesn't let it run.

Yeah I think its also called a half hitch, its where you rope the limb out to itself instead of a croth up higher. Also what u said about the groundie letting it run is very true, I have been there before...

 

[TreeJunkie]

spoke w/ the crane co today, after talking w/ them a while. We decided they'll be bringing a 27ton crane. Would have liked a larger unit however do to fear of cracking the driveway we had to go lite. Hopefully the 100ft of stick will be enough to reach over the house. With this crane we'll be having to take that trunk in pieces, unfortunately. He said the biggest he can pick at full stick at a 70 foot radius would be 1500lbs, I'm sure what the radius will be, but I'm thinking that we may have to take it in 3 pieces.
I tried to figure the weight of the log last night. Using the sherrill log guide it comes out about 3100 lbs. Anyone want to check my math for me? 4.5 ft dia X 9.5 tall.

by the size of the house do you all think we might be able to get it w/ this size machine.?? Drive way backs all the way up to the house on the front side.

 

[murphy4trees]

60' is a long stretch for that crane.... we don't like reaching over 50' with a 35 ton...

Here's a link for the woodweb log weight calculator...

Good luck with the job and make sure house is not occupied while work is being performed...
http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/calculators/calc.pl?calculator=log_weight

 

[glens]

151_ft³ × 45_lb/ft³ = 6800_lb is the math I come up with using your dimensions and Sherrill's chart.

 

[Tree Machine]

Just looking at the stump, I would say closer to Glen's estimate. It would be so sweet to pop that mondo over top of the house in one cut.

Here's your stretch. Get the bigger crane, take whatever precaution to not kill the driveway. Sell the log on e-bay to cover the cost of the crane.......

Fine then, call me crazy, but three cuts and three lifts is gonna double your crane time and give you three oddball size hunks too massive to do much of anything practical with. And a buncha sawdust.

Critical decisions to be made, and we will be curious to know how you will deal with the wood. Will it be firewood. Will it go into a tub grinder for mulch, and please don't say landfill.

You'll do the right thing. Take pics of the lift

 

[TreeJunkie]

Thanks guys! Needed my math checked. Thanks for the link over to wood web, that's really sweet. I knew that 3100 didn't sound quite right. Thankfully the crane we spoke w/ earlier isn't a hard reservation. We'll make some phone calls around.

I wasn't too excited about the sm. crane myself. After making a few calls though that was all we were finding. My bro, wants it tomorrow. Thus limited notice/ limited availability.

I'm thinking something in the 60 ton range. Do you think this size could make that in one pick. Even two would be alright.. I really don't want to make it three though. Still we'd better take both Ms660's tom. Sure wish i had a 3120 or 880 for that cut.

I'll make absolute sure no one is in that house when we lift off.

 

[Dadatwins]

Make sure you you can keep good eye contact with crane operator and person cutting, Since crane will be in front and cutting in the yard out of sight line with crane operator this will be critical. Allow for swing after cutting while lifting and if that close tag line to hold away from house. Plan your steps and communicate them to crane operator before starting your saw and be careful.

 

[Scars2prove-it]

You guys are talking about minimizing crane time and trying to keep it to one hour. Don't the crane companies in your area have a minimum hour charge? Around here it's four hours.

 

[Al Smith]

Nasty looking job

Food for thought.First of all,it's a silver maple,most likely full of hollow spots,Secondly,that close to a house,probaley full of nails etc.Doubtful,anyone would chance cutting for lumber.Slice and dice,split quickly.This stuff doesn't weather well,if unprotected from the elements.If left in logs,or chunks,it will get punky in less that 1 year.Been there ,done that,learned the hard way.

 

[TreeJunkie]

Unfortunately I don't think this thing is gonna be hollow. From all current indications it's solid as a rock. Nails well yes there are many.
Crane has a 1 and1/2 hour minimum but that also includes a one way drive which is usually the half hour.

The log is going to the tub grinder. Silver maple doesn't really fetch much around here. Only two or three milling operations in town. One is walnut only, and the other two are really small time.
I wouldn't hastle w/ splitting that junk for firewood either.

Well i'm out to go get er done in a few minutes assuming the proper crane can be had. Later!

 

[Tree Machine]

one cut, one lift

Pay a teenager to inoculate it with king oyster mushroom (pleurotus eryngii) it will crop for 8 to ten years. The mushrooms can be sold fresh to Japanese markets or restaurants. You could sell the 6,000 lb (2,675 Kg) mushroom 'Garden'.

The spawn you need will cost 40 bucks. The teenager will need a drill and a hammer and about three hours because he's gonna drill a thousand holes and whack in 1000 wood dowels. The log must be kept in shade.

C'mon, you can sell ANYTHING on e-bay. Be weird, make a thousand bucks on 'disposing' of the log and have a good laugh. A ha, a ha ha ha ha !

 

[Oxman]

Why the heck didn't the crane get ordered before, instead of lowering all those miserable logs with ropes over the deck?

Some people are just gluttons for punishment.

 

[TreeJunkie]

Your telling me!

I'm the one who had to do all of the climbing/cutting. Some people just don't get it though.

Today's progress: Well we couldn't get the crane we needed today. I guess it's gonna be monday now. However we went over and took out the remaining ropeable log and did a good cleanup. I'm figuring we'll have 3 pieces to take out come monday. One piece will be in the range of about 1100lbs, and the others probobally closer to 3k each.

I'll post a couple of pics from today.

 

[TreeJunkie]

a little closer

 

[TreeJunkie]

Here is what we started w/ today when we got there.

 

[TreeJunkie]

this was the end of the day

 

[Scars2prove-it]

Is your brother still making money on this job?

 

[TreeJunkie]

Probobally not like he thought he would. He thought we'd have this thing down to the trunk in one day. That didn't happen.


He still going to do alright though, there's plenty of $ on the job.

 

[TreeJunkie]

Mike,
Thankyou. I appreciate the kind words. I just have to thank my uncle for training me properly. And of coarse a lot of people on the boards for alot of knowledge which i couldn't get elsewhere.

Thankyou everyone.